I'm looking at trying to get an all over print done reasonably. But having gotten samples made here I know it's too expensive in the U.S. I was wondering if anyone has an overseas printer that's reliable? Thanks.
  • Jochen

    I would recommend Sublab to you; great customer service and good printing quality. Had an all-over sample printed of one of my designs by them and it got stuck in the Royal Mail system so I emailed them and they just printed another one for free and it arrived two days later.
    They are UK based, so I don't know about the prices for you but you might want to check them out.

    http://sublab.co.uk
  • jonkruse

    What was so expensive over here that you think you can get it done cheaper overseas?

    I just ask because most people want to go overseas but they aren't printing very many shirts, its cheaper but the shipping prices are a lot more. It just does't make sense for most companies.
  • RONIN78

    Yeah that's the thing, some of the shirt samples I have gotten have been about 30 bucks. Sublimation isn't like screen printing right? The price doesn't reduce no matter how many you print or am I missing something?
  • jonkruse

    sublimation is for all over prints.
    https://vimeo.com/34670205

    Screen printing is a lot cheaper in the higher numbers, but most screen printers have minimums where sublimation you can print 1 shirt if you wanted to.
    https://www.theprintful.com/product/all-over-printing-sublimation

    It just depends on what you want printed. If its an all over print you have to do sublimation.
  • miles to go

    I can't see overseas production being worth it unless you needed min 500 of each design. On top of the cost of goods from china, you have broker fees here and freight shipping for a pallet(not cheap). My last cost for a shipment of journals was $1600 for the broker and freight for two pallets from LA to AZ.

    Plenty of places will do dye sub here in the states.
  • RONIN78

    Hmmm the freight shipping is a major concern of mine. Thanks for the insight. Think I'll be passing on all over prints till I get my feet wet/wetter.
  • Matt Borchert

    Sublimation printing is expensive because they have to print a t-shirt sized sheet of sublimation paper in many cases in full color and then manually heat press it onto the shirt. It is just by nature a slower process that is also expensive due to the cost of ink, so you aren't going to find it done cheaply unless you get into big print numbers.

    I can tell you that you can get full color sublimation printed t-shirts in your hand for under $10 if your quantity levels and vendor are right.

    If you want an all over t-shirt and can reduce it to one or two colors look into belt printing. Samples will never be cheap due to the time consuming process of getting a design ready to sample. Just the way it is.
  • miles to go

    I should also mention in terms of shipping that if you do not buy enough for it to go on a boat on a pallet, the other shipping they use is air mail which is super expensive. For instance, I am getting 5000 printed mailers made right now and the shipping is $250! Altogether I'm going to be saving a lot, but its something to factor into your cost. For me, I went through 2000 mailers this year, so its worth hitting a higher amount to save long term. For any smaller orders, it basically balances out to getting something done in the US. I looked up getting my catalogs for spring printed, 16 page saddle stitch and the shipping was $800 and the printing $450. I can get them in the states for $1000 instead. You just need to decide if its worth it. Communication can be a hurdle that adds risk into your order too for whatever goods.
  • JoeBaronDesign

    Sublimation is a totally different beast and it's not anything can be sublimated either. It depends what you're trying to do and as mentioned before shipping costs can be ridiculous.

    Also, understand that when printing samples you are asking for 1 shirt and set up isn't a quick process for screen printing. Most places wouldn't even want to do 1 shirt, so the time, screens, and printing cost all add up. It's always best if possible to meet with a printer.
  • Matt Borchert

    miles to go said:I should also mention in terms of shipping that if you do not buy enough for it to go on a boat on a pallet, the other shipping they use is air mail which is super expensive. For instance, I am getting 5000 printed mailers made right now and the shipping is $250! Altogether I'm going to be saving a lot, but its something to factor into your cost. For me, I went through 2000 mailers this year, so its worth hitting a higher amount to save long term. For any smaller orders, it basically balances out to getting something done in the US. I looked up getting my catalogs for spring printed, 16 page saddle stitch and the shipping was $800 and the printing $450. I can get them in the states for $1000 instead. You just need to decide if its worth it. Communication can be a hurdle that adds risk into your order too for whatever goods.

    Very good points. Shipping costs and communication can be hurdles when dealing with China.

    Also, and seriously do not underestimate this, Chinese business people negotiate different than people in many other countries. They (on average) WILL NOT give you their best price up front, or anything close to it. Sometimes you can get them to drop their prices thousands of percents after a short e-mail exchange. I wasn't dealing with t-shirts in that situation, but you get the idea. They expect you to negotiate and know what you're talking about or they'll just continue giving you absolutely terrible prices.
  • OYMYO

    ive not had much luck with printing over the sea, im finding it very difficult to get the ink to stay stuck to a moving liquid fluid, i think if you freeze it first though you could have more of a chance to get good results, if you do manage to get your artwork to stay on an ocean or any body of water, please let me know as this is something i am very interested in

    out of interest have you researched any gas based products? im planning on customizing oxygen and doing a deal on cheap shipping and maybe chuck in a few stickers and pins if they spend more than a certain amount, i dunno, maybe its something u know about since u r so interested in flapping ur mermaid fin & painting the sea u fairy

    <3 hey do u kno jerad? <3
  • OYMYO

    y not research how oil companies do it?
  • OYMYO

    yes i was born a comedy genius
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    We provide kinds of blank t-shirts and printing services

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