I'm just wondering what it takes to be community selected? I am so sorry if I am too lazy to research about that bc I just want to get the answer from you guys. lol
  • Cameron Latham

    When you submit a design, it gets put into a queue where the mini-mods of the site are able to vote the design up or down. Four votes one way or the other determine whether the design will be pushed through to the Community Selected section or the All Tees section.
  • THEGOODSHIT

    no offense but I think the mods or the admins aren't that active anymore in my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong. As you can see the website is getting very inactive, less shirts are being promoted even the top 10/9 tees aren't 9 tees anymore their just 6 or sometimes 3. I guess the mentality here is that because of this community selected some designers aren't motivated to produce more. We all have different genre's or styles and now I don't even know what I'm saying lol. haha
  • fuggart

    THEGOODSHIT said:no offense but I think the mods or the admins aren't that active anymore in my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong. As you can see the website is getting very inactive, less shirts are being promoted even the top 10/9 tees aren't 9 tees anymore their just 6 or sometimes 3. I guess the mentality here is that because of this community selected some designers aren't motivated to produce more. We all have different genre's or styles and now I don't even know what I'm saying lol. haha

    I didn't really understand most of what you said because you haven't wrote it very well but in response to this:

    "I guess the mentality here is that because of this community selected some designers aren't motivated to produce more"

    If your only motivation for producing good work is community selected section of a virtually inactive website then yeah you're screwed mate... If you produce something good and upload it then now more than ever you have a shot of getting into community selected because barely anything good comes through mintees anymore. Half the stuff I see on CS I would never have put through myself. Some of us are on auto approve but a lot of us that are are already very well established so it's less of an urgency most weeks.

    Would the site benefit from more active mods? yes certainly. Will the site owners ever do anything to revive this site? No I highly doubt it. They left it to rot ages ago
  • THEGOODSHIT

    yeah you're right. I hope someone will get this system fixed. The market is dying. I mean compared to emptees everything was doing very fine. Lot's of designers got jobs and lot's of talents were improved.
  • jared

    fuggart said:
    THEGOODSHIT said:no offense but I think the mods or the admins aren't that active anymore in my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong. As you can see the website is getting very inactive, less shirts are being promoted even the top 10/9 tees aren't 9 tees anymore their just 6 or sometimes 3. I guess the mentality here is that because of this community selected some designers aren't motivated to produce more. We all have different genre's or styles and now I don't even know what I'm saying lol. haha

    I didn't really understand most of what you said because you haven't wrote it very well but in response to this:

    "I guess the mentality here is that because of this community selected some designers aren't motivated to produce more"

    If your only motivation for producing good work is community selected section of a virtually inactive website then yeah you're screwed mate... If you produce something good and upload it then now more than ever you have a shot of getting into community selected because barely anything good comes through mintees anymore. Half the stuff I see on CS I would never have put through myself. Some of us are on auto approve but a lot of us that are are already very well established so it's less of an urgency most weeks.

    Would the site benefit from more active mods? yes certainly. Will the site owners ever do anything to revive this site? No I highly doubt it. They left it to rot ages ago

    We didn't leave it to rot. The content fuels the site in many ways:

    - More traffic from existing users
    - More new users
    - More engagement

    The site still sees enough traffic and participation in advertising services to sustain itself + some, though traffic has been decreasing as time goes on.

    Everyone has their theories, many blame the site design (which is hilarious and definitely wrong). I told Rob that I believe it is about a generation of designers who came up within Emptees, reigned on Mintees, then became less involved for various reasons (career path trajectory, less personal time to spend, etc). Another major contributor, and this is just my opinion, is Instagram.

    --

    Community Selected goes by "love" counts, buttttt because newer tees have less loves than older designs, there's a lot of old design generation stuff appearing daily and monthly. I contemplated capping the starting time limit on those functions, but I firmly believe the community will complain about us featuring tees with only a handful of likes, even if they ARE recent.

    --

    Ultimately, this site thrives on new content and new users. A lot of the interaction and content on this site comes from up-and-comers looking for advice or just starting out. They're met with hostility, sarcasm and a lack of empathy.

    I visit this site and occasionally see a talk thread with a great potential subject (advice, opinions, feedback), then read the first comment is some uppity, sarcastic & snarky comment and I just shake my head in disappointment. Followed by a dozen more. Why would any of these new users come back?

    You say we've left the site to rot? I disagree. Mintees (and previously Emptees) filled a need in the community. Mintees added all of the tools requested by the community except the one it cannot control: user interest and engagement.
  • fuggart

    jared said:
    fuggart said:
    THEGOODSHIT said:no offense but I think the mods or the admins aren't that active anymore in my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong. As you can see the website is getting very inactive, less shirts are being promoted even the top 10/9 tees aren't 9 tees anymore their just 6 or sometimes 3. I guess the mentality here is that because of this community selected some designers aren't motivated to produce more. We all have different genre's or styles and now I don't even know what I'm saying lol. haha

    I didn't really understand most of what you said because you haven't wrote it very well but in response to this:

    "I guess the mentality here is that because of this community selected some designers aren't motivated to produce more"

    If your only motivation for producing good work is community selected section of a virtually inactive website then yeah you're screwed mate... If you produce something good and upload it then now more than ever you have a shot of getting into community selected because barely anything good comes through mintees anymore. Half the stuff I see on CS I would never have put through myself. Some of us are on auto approve but a lot of us that are are already very well established so it's less of an urgency most weeks.

    Would the site benefit from more active mods? yes certainly. Will the site owners ever do anything to revive this site? No I highly doubt it. They left it to rot ages ago

    We didn't leave it to rot. The content fuels the site in many ways:

    - More traffic from existing users
    - More new users
    - More engagement

    The site still sees enough traffic and participation in advertising services to sustain itself + some, though traffic has been decreasing as time goes on.

    Everyone has their theories, many blame the site design (which is hilarious and definitely wrong). I told Rob that I believe it is about a generation of designers who came up within Emptees, reigned on Mintees, then became less involved for various reasons (career path trajectory, less personal time to spend, etc). Another major contributor, and this is just my opinion, is Instagram.

    --

    Community Selected goes by "love" counts, buttttt because newer tees have less loves than older designs, there's a lot of old design generation stuff appearing daily and monthly. I contemplated capping the starting time limit on those functions, but I firmly believe the community will complain about us featuring tees with only a handful of likes, even if they ARE recent.

    --

    Ultimately, this site thrives on new content and new users. A lot of the interaction and content on this site comes from up-and-comers looking for advice or just starting out. They're met with hostility, sarcasm and a lack of empathy.

    I visit this site and occasionally see a talk thread with a great potential subject (advice, opinions, feedback), then read the first comment is some uppity, sarcastic & snarky comment and I just shake my head in disappointment. Followed by a dozen more. Why would any of these new users come back?

    You say we've left the site to rot? I disagree. Mintees (and previously Emptees) filled a need in the community. Mintees added all of the tools requested by the community except the one it cannot control: user interest and engagement.

    What about adding more admins then who can vote on the CS tees? Also what about tweaking the algorithm for the tee of the day to make that attainable for newer members?

    I don't think the aesthetics of the site are the reason for the decline either but it certainly won't help sell the place to new designers. It could be a very simple fix if you just kept the same exact layout but updated the style?
  • jared

    More voters? No problem. If you guys want to comment below saying "voter" I'll have Rob pop in and review and update anyone he thinks fits the role.

    I replied a little bit about the algorithm thing. If enough people think this is a factor, I'll talk with the dev team and see what areas we should apply it to.

    Maybe we'll do tees added in the last 6 months and calculate:

    - Tee of the day
    - Tee of the month

    We could make sure Tee of the year only factors tees uploaded that year. I'm pretty sure that's what it does, but either way, we'll check into it.

    Anyone else want this? Chime in so I can get a gauge.

    Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.
  • bsteczdesigns

    jared said:More voters? No problem. If you guys want to comment below saying "voter" I'll have Rob pop in and review and update anyone he thinks fits the role.

    I replied a little bit about the algorithm thing. If enough people think this is a factor, I'll talk with the dev team and see what areas we should apply it to.

    Maybe we'll do tees added in the last 6 months and calculate:

    - Tee of the day
    - Tee of the month

    We could make sure Tee of the year only factors tees uploaded that year. I'm pretty sure that's what it does, but either way, we'll check into it.

    Anyone else want this? Chime in so I can get a gauge.

    Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.

    I'd be down to be a voter. I'm a fan of these communities and it'd be cool to be more involved. I came in a bit late from the rest of the crowd.
  • justinbryant

    I personally think a change to the algorithm would be nice. Just because, as it has been stated before, the activity on this site has slowed way down and it would be cool to see some newer tees/designers up for tee of the day/month.

    I visit this page everyday to see what is going on, so I'd be down to help out in any I can. I know some people have complained about CS being slow and the voters were blamed, so if I could help out by just putting in some votes, I'd be game.
  • Cameron Latham

    Since I was made a mini-mod, I've voted every day if possible. The queue is almost always backed up to multiple pages, so I think adding more voters is a great idea. It's currently backed up seven pages; the worst I've seen it in a while.

    As Tom mentioned, I don't think the site's design is really pushing anyone away, but a new look could do wonders. Although I do understand the time and money involved in doing something that may not pay off.

    As far as user interaction goes, that attitude's been standard since the site's beginning. Unfortunately, since most of the more renown designers dipped out, all that's left is up-and-comers and mid-level designers. With that comes silly questions that will undoubtedly be met with the aforementioned hostility and sarcasm. Which, in turn, pushes the up-and-comers away leaving the mid-level designers asking, "where the hell is everyone?".

    I'm not sure what the solution for that is; as famously stated by Ser Bronn of the Blackwater:


    I guess I'm just blagging on. TL;DR: More voters = good.
  • THEGOODSHIT

    please let me vote hahah kidding. I just hope the site gets more lively like the old days

    and one thing. I cannot edit and delete my posts too.
    I don't know if it is just me with this kind of problem
  • Cameron Latham

    THEGOODSHIT said:please let me vote hahah kidding. I just hope the site gets more lively like the old days

    and one thing. I cannot edit and delete my posts too.
    I don't know if it is just me with this kind of problem

    If you have AdBlock, you'll have to turn it off for Mintees. AdBlock removes the edit and delete buttons on design pages for some reason.
  • fuggart

    jared said:More voters? No problem. If you guys want to comment below saying "voter" I'll have Rob pop in and review and update anyone he thinks fits the role.

    I replied a little bit about the algorithm thing. If enough people think this is a factor, I'll talk with the dev team and see what areas we should apply it to.

    Maybe we'll do tees added in the last 6 months and calculate:

    - Tee of the day
    - Tee of the month

    We could make sure Tee of the year only factors tees uploaded that year. I'm pretty sure that's what it does, but either way, we'll check into it.

    Anyone else want this? Chime in so I can get a gauge.

    Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.

    I would be 100% up for voting on stuff and it would probably give me more incentive to check the site as these days I check it once a week at most as there's not much for me to do when I do find myself here.

    Personally I really do think updating the algorithm would be beneficial... there was a time when people were super proud of being TOTD and I know newcomers aiming to make a mark on the industry would see it as a target.

    I don't know much about web stuff but for me even if all mintees did was drop the grey gradients and drop shadows etc and have block black navigation backgrounds it would feel more up to date. But again I am not a web person
  • jared

    bsteczdesigns said:
    jared said:More voters? No problem. If you guys want to comment below saying "voter" I'll have Rob pop in and review and update anyone he thinks fits the role.

    I replied a little bit about the algorithm thing. If enough people think this is a factor, I'll talk with the dev team and see what areas we should apply it to.

    Maybe we'll do tees added in the last 6 months and calculate:

    - Tee of the day
    - Tee of the month

    We could make sure Tee of the year only factors tees uploaded that year. I'm pretty sure that's what it does, but either way, we'll check into it.

    Anyone else want this? Chime in so I can get a gauge.

    Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.

    I'd be down to be a voter. I'm a fan of these communities and it'd be cool to be more involved. I came in a bit late from the rest of the crowd.

    Voting status granted. Tees > Approve

    If you don't see this, log out and in again.
  • jared

    fuggart said:
    jared said:More voters? No problem. If you guys want to comment below saying "voter" I'll have Rob pop in and review and update anyone he thinks fits the role.

    I replied a little bit about the algorithm thing. If enough people think this is a factor, I'll talk with the dev team and see what areas we should apply it to.

    Maybe we'll do tees added in the last 6 months and calculate:

    - Tee of the day
    - Tee of the month

    We could make sure Tee of the year only factors tees uploaded that year. I'm pretty sure that's what it does, but either way, we'll check into it.

    Anyone else want this? Chime in so I can get a gauge.

    Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.

    I would be 100% up for voting on stuff and it would probably give me more incentive to check the site as these days I check it once a week at most as there's not much for me to do when I do find myself here.

    Personally I really do think updating the algorithm would be beneficial... there was a time when people were super proud of being TOTD and I know newcomers aiming to make a mark on the industry would see it as a target.

    I don't know much about web stuff but for me even if all mintees did was drop the grey gradients and drop shadows etc and have block black navigation backgrounds it would feel more up to date. But again I am not a web person

    You already have voter status!
  • fuggart

    jared said:
    fuggart said:
    jared said:More voters? No problem. If you guys want to comment below saying "voter" I'll have Rob pop in and review and update anyone he thinks fits the role.

    I replied a little bit about the algorithm thing. If enough people think this is a factor, I'll talk with the dev team and see what areas we should apply it to.

    Maybe we'll do tees added in the last 6 months and calculate:

    - Tee of the day
    - Tee of the month

    We could make sure Tee of the year only factors tees uploaded that year. I'm pretty sure that's what it does, but either way, we'll check into it.

    Anyone else want this? Chime in so I can get a gauge.

    Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.

    I would be 100% up for voting on stuff and it would probably give me more incentive to check the site as these days I check it once a week at most as there's not much for me to do when I do find myself here.

    Personally I really do think updating the algorithm would be beneficial... there was a time when people were super proud of being TOTD and I know newcomers aiming to make a mark on the industry would see it as a target.

    I don't know much about web stuff but for me even if all mintees did was drop the grey gradients and drop shadows etc and have block black navigation backgrounds it would feel more up to date. But again I am not a web person

    You already have voter status!

    haha really? i legitimately wasn't aware... i'll check it out
  • iamoath

    I'd be interested in being a voter as well. Despite not posting, I visit the site several times on a daily basis.
  • EricAbstruse

    I would be happy to be a voter. I'm always checking the site and submit designs from time to time, but haven't lately due to them never being approved.
  • BodilPunk

    EricAbstruse said:I would be happy to be a voter. I'm always checking the site and submit designs from time to time, but haven't lately due to them never being approved.

    Yup it happened to me too. If i can join to be a voter, that would be great.
  • THEGOODSHIT

    Me too. I would like to vote . I always visit the site
  • jared

    iamoath said:I'd be interested in being a voter as well. Despite not posting, I visit the site several times on a daily basis.

    Voter status granted!

    EricAbstruse said:I would be happy to be a voter. I'm always checking the site and submit designs from time to time, but haven't lately due to them never being approved.

    Done!

    BodilPunk said:
    EricAbstruse said:I would be happy to be a voter. I'm always checking the site and submit designs from time to time, but haven't lately due to them never being approved.

    Yup it happened to me too. If i can join to be a voter, that would be great.

    Granted!

    THEGOODSHIT said:Me too. I would like to vote . I always visit the site

    You're a voter now!
  • Cameron Latham

    justinbryant said:I personally think a change to the algorithm would be nice. Just because, as it has been stated before, the activity on this site has slowed way down and it would be cool to see some newer tees/designers up for tee of the day/month.

    I visit this page everyday to see what is going on, so I'd be down to help out in any I can. I know some people have complained about CS being slow and the voters were blamed, so if I could help out by just putting in some votes, I'd be game.

    Think you missed one, Jared!
  • jared

    justinbryant said:I personally think a change to the algorithm would be nice. Just because, as it has been stated before, the activity on this site has slowed way down and it would be cool to see some newer tees/designers up for tee of the day/month.

    I visit this page everyday to see what is going on, so I'd be down to help out in any I can. I know some people have complained about CS being slow and the voters were blamed, so if I could help out by just putting in some votes, I'd be game.

    Voter status enabled
  • EricAbstruse

    Thanks Jared!
  • BluuDreams

    Idk if your still looking for people but I'll def be a voter. I wouldn't mind helping out.
  • jared

    BluuDreams said:Idk if your still looking for people but I'll def be a voter. I wouldn't mind helping out.

    Voter status enabled!
  • BluuDreams

    awesome! thanks jared
  • myohmy Design

    I would be up for voting. I've recently become more active on the site so would love to contribute more to the daily operations!
  • zamboaga

    Hi Jared. Would love to vote kickass designs!
    Hope I qualify. Thanks!
  • Cameron Latham

    Queue's been empty the past couple times I've checked. Good stuff, y'all!
  • jipanji

    Guys, I have paid the promoted tees section for few times just to get more attention. mostly when I promote my post, I'll get new clients in 1-3 days. but this time.. I didn't get 1 at all and after I check, my post wasn't selected but then a week goes and I didn't get much attention from new people/client.

    What happen to mintees? for the last 2 months I didn't get a side job from here and I hope this site will gets more lively and be better just like before.

    Thanks
  • bsteczdesigns

    jipanji said:Guys, I have paid the promoted tees section for few times just to get more attention. mostly when I promote my post, I'll get new clients in 1-3 days. but this time.. I didn't get 1 at all and after I check, my post wasn't selected but then a week goes and I didn't get much attention from new people/client.

    What happen to mintees? for the last 2 months I didn't get a side job from here and I hope this site will gets more lively and be better just like before.

    Thanks

    I can definitely say that the client thing is not a Mintees thing. I've paid to promote probably 3 posts monthly or so, and I'll get quite a few inquiries from here for projects, not sure if it's the promoted bit or just people coming across my work. But I've had maybe 10~ different people emailing me from here wanting work since June. Clients do look through here, I guess it's more of a "are you what we want to hire for our tshirt" situation.
  • MrSnake

    jared said:Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.

    Which language did you guys use to build Mintees?
  • THEGOODSHIT

    hey jared I get this when I vote "no stage = 0"
  • endale

    I want to vote too! I'm a long time Lurker but a new comer on submissions . Hope to be part of it!
  • Black Cloak

    I want to vote if that's possible!
    some of my design passed though the community selected section.but some are not :\
    i don't understand the criteria to get passed to the community selected section..
  • Cameron Latham

    Black Cloak said:I want to vote if that's possible!
    some of my design passed though the community selected section.but some are not :\
    i don't understand the criteria to get passed to the community selected section..

    It's ultimately up to the voters. Art is subjective. If I'm honest, I downvote about 95% of what gets submitted, but that's only one voter out of at least 20.
  • jared

    THEGOODSHIT said:hey jared I get this when I vote "no stage = 0"

    Your status is Voter and has been for a while now. Tees > Approve
  • jared

    MrSnake said:
    jared said:Updating the design is nice, it's just a matter of resources and $, that's all. And unfortunately, it can't just be anyone shmo on the site who knows HTML. Re-theming requires advanced level web designer/developer, which we have, but costs $ and time.

    Which language did you guys use to build Mintees?

    The site is built on the CakePHP framework with a MySQL database.
  • fuggart

    Right it's obviously great that we now have loads of new voters but I gotta say that some under par work has been up voted into CS already. I hope that voting status has only been granted to people with a good track record because the following are not up to the standard IMO (sorry to be a bit of a bastard about it but it's true)

    http://www.mintees.com/tees/386261-dead-rider/?order=recent&sort=
    http://www.mintees.com/tees/386264-skll/?order=recent&sort=
    http://www.mintees.com/tees/386251-scithe-fender/?order=recent&sort=
    http://www.mintees.com/tees/386237-lion-king/?order=recent&sort=
    http://www.mintees.com/tees/386236-sneagle/?order=recent&sort=

    They aren't the worst I've seen... I'm not even saying they are overly bad but they aren't CS standard at all. the last 3 times I've logged in to vote there's been nothing in the queue because it's all getting up voted so fast

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