well guys, it's been a fun ride. but, personally, i don't see a point in participating here anymore.

i don't really gain any new clients here, i don't really interact with anyone i wouldn't interact with by other means, and i find myself looking elsewhere for inspiration lately.

when i first arrived, this was THE place for inspiration. before emptees and mintees i didn't know where else to look. one could argue that there was no other place to look. it just doesn't seem that way anymore. the ones doing the most inspiring work don't post as often, and/or post elsewhere, and get hardly any recognition for it here. people here are designing for massive clients. people are doing stuff for the biggest bands in the world... and get maybe 12 likes and 3 comments. seems like the level of talent and success has risen, while the level of interaction and growth has fallen.

it just seems to be a waste of time lately. mintees doesn't offer anything i can't find elsewhere, and it's just not worth it anymore. so i'm out. i'm sure i'll still lurk here every once and a while, but i won't be posting new designs or be all that active in the forums. you guys know where to find me should you care to keep up with me.

dribbble @cmeyers
instagram @cmeyers
www.coreymeyers.com
  • fuggart

    As much as I can't say that I'm also "out" as I know I will not stop lurking until it fully dies off… I can definitely say that I barely post any new designs here anymore. I'd say it's sad to see you go but I think between E-mail and IG you and me keep in touch enough haha
  • Andrew Haines

    and so it begins again.

    That sucks man, I'll definitely still be in touch, you're one of the people I take a lot of inspiration from even though we're two different ends of the spectrum style wise
  • justinbryant

    I'll be sure to keep up with your work on IG and Dribbble. I always love seeing your stuff pop up.
  • Cameron Latham

    fuggart said:As much as I can't say that I'm also "out" as I know I will not stop lurking until it fully dies off… I can definitely say that I barely post any new designs here anymore.

    Yep.
  • vinbasshred

    crappy designs on auto approve, good designs getting shoved in the all tees section. lowered participation. goodbye. I'm pretty done, too.
  • jared

    vinbasshred said:crappy designs on auto approve, good designs getting shoved in the all tees section. lowered participation. goodbye. I'm pretty done, too.

    Please link to a specific user you believe is on auto approve and should not be. Rob will swing by here and evaluate their status.
  • cmeyers

    vinbasshred said:crappy designs on auto approve, good designs getting shoved in the all tees section. lowered participation. goodbye. I'm pretty done, too.

    yeah my problem isn't the lack of good designs... there are a ton of great designs being posted. it just seems pointless. maybe get a couple comments and a few likes. the occasional low ball offer to buy a design, but i just don't see this site offering anything that i can't get from instagram or dribbble. the same people follow me there, so why post the same thing 3 different places? this is the weakest of the 3, so it's not worth my time anymore.
  • GNARZILLA

    Sounds like a butthurt party in here. This place needs to get over the amount of likes and comments, it shouldn't be the reason people decide to post (or not to post). I appreciate the recent quality of work and no amount of likes, or lack of likes, takes away from inspiration.
  • cmeyers

    GNARZILLA said:Sounds like a butthurt party in here. This place needs to get over the amount of likes and comments, it shouldn't be the reason people decide to post (or not to post). I appreciate the recent quality of work and no amount of likes, or lack of likes, takes away from inspiration.

    that's not my point. my point is there are other avenues that provide the same inspiration, with more interaction among users. the likes and comments are just an example for the lack of interaction in the community. say i want to share a shirt i did, i post it here, dribbble, instagram, and my website. posting here seems to be a waste of time compared to the others.

    it has nothing to do with me being butthurt because i'm not getting likes. it's just pointless to be active on a site that has little to no interaction. everyone that i'm inspired by here, i follow elsewhere. most everyone that cares about my work here, follows me elsewhere. it's just one more thing to take up time, and i've just come to the conclusion that this isn't worth the effort, that's all. of course i'll lurk here and there and check up on things, i'm just kind of giving a formal farewell and links to where you can follow me if you choose to, because i won't be posting tees here.
  • TopJimmy

    You already got the mock made, why wouldn't ya just go ahead and upload it here too? Your loss if ya don't. The more places you post, the more exposure.

    I think there's a higher volume of traffic here than we know. Just because there's little interaction (it's more a Gallery than a Social attraction) doesn't mean the site is dead or dying.

    It's still in the Top 10 greatest sites in the apparel arena to publish your work and I believe it will remain there for a long time to come.

    Ya made it into the mysterious "Community" (which, I believe, ain't easy), that puts you on the front Tee Grid on the main Tees menu tab, slower moving, longer exposure.

    I know you! LOL! You ain't go'n nowhere! ;)~
  • TenTimesKarma

    Guess you mad your latest design didn't get much likes and comments as you stated in your "farewell speech"? and decided your gonna post about it and bail on Mintees and all? lol- http://www.mintees.com/tees/376195-enter-shikari-for-sale/
  • Setup85

    Congrats! Bttm, top?
  • cmeyers

    TopJimmy said:You already got the mock made, why wouldn't ya just go ahead and upload it here too? Your loss if ya don't. The more places you post, the more exposure.

    I think there's a higher volume of traffic here than we know. Just because there's little interaction (it's more a Gallery than a Social attraction) doesn't mean the site is dead or dying.

    It's still in the Top 10 greatest sites in the apparel arena to publish your work and I believe it will remain there for a long time to come.

    Ya made it into the mysterious "Community" (which, I believe, ain't easy), that puts you on the front Tee Grid on the main Tees menu tab, slower moving, longer exposure.

    I know you! LOL! You ain't go'n nowhere! ;)~

    sure... i'm on auto approve, and my tee sits there for a bit, but for what? all i get out of it is for a couple people to go "cool" and then get the occasional $150 offer from some startup street wear brand. the same people that are interacting with me here also interact with me on other platforms, so why spread myself so thin? it just doesn't make sense for me to post here, insta, dribbble, and my website.

    it's pretty simple, i'm just making a decision that this has become more of a burden than a benefit to me.

    TenTimesKarma said:Guess you mad your latest design didn't get much likes and comments as you stated in your "farewell speech"? and decided your gonna post about it and bail on Mintees and all? lol- http://www.mintees.com/tees/376195-enter-shikari-for-sale/

    what? no.... i'm not mad at all. 14 is actually pretty good for here and that design had nothing to do with me wanting to leave.
  • dbdesign

    TopJimmy said:You already got the mock made, why wouldn't ya just go ahead and upload it here too? Your loss if ya don't. The more places you post, the more exposure.

    I think there's a higher volume of traffic here than we know. Just because there's little interaction (it's more a Gallery than a Social attraction) doesn't mean the site is dead or dying.

    It's still in the Top 10 greatest sites in the apparel arena to publish your work and I believe it will remain there for a long time to come.

    Ya made it into the mysterious "Community" (which, I believe, ain't easy), that puts you on the front Tee Grid on the main Tees menu tab, slower moving, longer exposure.

    I know you! LOL! You ain't go'n nowhere! ;)~

    Agreed, I enjoy talking to you dudes, but this site is just one more outlet to increase SEO and visibility...free exposure, I'll take it. But best of luck to you dude...see you around fo' sho!
  • thedepths

    You're right, this site does blow. I've been coming to emptees since May of '07; 2007-2009 was a magical era for the community. I still come back and lurk because I just don't know how to walk away, checking this site has just been something I've done for so long haha. I'd rather them just pull the plug and let this sinking ship go, so I can stop looking at it.

    Anyways,
    Corey- you're obviously personally butthurt about the site, otherwise you'd just sign out and leave it at that. But you have to make a post about why it's just not worth it to YOU anymore- great, that's cool, then just don't be active anymore like you said. For now, you're just another sad drama-dude.
  • cmeyers

    thedepths said:You're right, this site does blow. I've been coming to emptees since May of '07; 2007-2009 was a magical era for the community. I still come back and lurk because I just don't know how to walk away, checking this site has just been something I've done for so long haha. I'd rather them just pull the plug and let this sinking ship go, so I can stop looking at it.

    Anyways,
    Corey- you're obviously personally butthurt about the site, otherwise you'd just sign out and leave it at that. But you have to make a post about why it's just not worth it to YOU anymore- great, that's cool, then just don't be active anymore like you said. For now, you're just another sad drama-dude.

    Haha trust me I'm not butt hurt and in no way was I intending to start drama. I was simply saying goodbye, stating my reasons, and providing links to follow me on other platforms in case anyone wanted to that doesn't already.

    dbdesign said:
    TopJimmy said:You already got the mock made, why wouldn't ya just go ahead and upload it here too? Your loss if ya don't. The more places you post, the more exposure.

    I think there's a higher volume of traffic here than we know. Just because there's little interaction (it's more a Gallery than a Social attraction) doesn't mean the site is dead or dying.

    It's still in the Top 10 greatest sites in the apparel arena to publish your work and I believe it will remain there for a long time to come.

    Ya made it into the mysterious "Community" (which, I believe, ain't easy), that puts you on the front Tee Grid on the main Tees menu tab, slower moving, longer exposure.

    I know you! LOL! You ain't go'n nowhere! ;)~

    Agreed, I enjoy talking to you dudes, but this site is just one more outlet to increase SEO and visibility...free exposure, I'll take it. But best of luck to you dude...see you around fo' sho!

    I get the SEO thing, but at this point not sure I need to worry about it. I have a full time job and consistent side work. And as far as exposure goes, same thing.
  • Who is Ryan C.

    Setup85 said:Congrats! Bttm, top?

    Masc white top/discreet/no fats,fems,Asians or Blacks
  • Who is Ryan C.

    But seriously, why is everyone leaving me?! I CANNOT ANYMORE!

  • RONIN78

    As a relative newbie and lurker I have to say there's a lot of complaining on this forum about non-participation.But I think it's not as bad as people say.Meaning there are a ton of talented artists on here and I think that really folks are just busy.I am into a variety of things and belong to a variety of forums from comic art,videogame design,to t-shirts.I've found the worst forums are the ones with people who aren't very good at what they do and hence have a lot of time on their hands to post.I think if there are a zillion people constantly posting it speaks to a low quality of members.Also,I've never had a question go unanswered on here.And really folks the number of awesome designs on here is so high;if someone were to decide to comment on and "like"every design they enjoyed they'd be here all day.Perhaps though I come to this site more as a forum than a business site as I haven't started my line yet.
  • lonelykidsclub

    corey im a long time lurker and didnt really speak to you 1 on 1 that much but i've always been a huge fan of your work - best of luck with everything
  • cmeyers

    RONIN78 said:As a relative newbie and lurker I have to say there's a lot of complaining on this forum about non-participation.But I think it's not as bad as people say.Meaning there are a ton of talented artists on here and I think that really folks are just busy.I am into a variety of things and belong to a variety of forums from comic art,videogame design,to t-shirts.I've found the worst forums are the ones with people who aren't very good at what they do and hence have a lot of time on their hands to post.I think if there are a zillion people constantly posting it speaks to a low quality of members.Also,I've never had a question go unanswered on here.And really folks the number of awesome designs on here is so high;if someone were to decide to comment on and "like"every design they enjoyed they'd be here all day.Perhaps though I come to this site more as a forum than a business site as I haven't started my line yet.

    the reason you hear that a lot is because there used to be a ton more activity than there is now. this is just a personal decision of mine. i'm by no means saying that everyone else should bail too. if you find this site helpful, that's great. again, this was just me saying farewell and where you can follow me if you would like to.

    lonelykidsclub said:corey im a long time lurker and didnt really speak to you 1 on 1 that much but i've always been a huge fan of your work - best of luck with everything

    appreciate it man
  • kevinluong

    Everyone, let's keep this thread going. That way, Cmeyers will never leave ;)
  • Cutty.

    Do we really need to do grand farewells? I mean, theres loads of "post your facebook / ig / twitter" threads if you just wanted to give us your contact info. If you don't want to post here anymore, just dont post here. We're all still here, lurking in the shadows, theres just not really a whole lot to talk about that we don't all talk about on facebook.

    If you get something out of it and want to participate for the sake of participating, then do it. If you don't get anything out of it and don't need or want to post your tees on mintees, then don't. But making an official "i'm going to stop posting here now, but I'll probably still lurk every once in a while" post just seem silly. And I'm not really aiming this directly at you, Cmeyers, you're great, but everybody's so freaking dramatic around here lately. Its a freaking forum. Its not the end of the world if its slow. If theres a reason for people to post here, they will. If somebody makes a topic worth commenting on, we will. I mean, we did a roll call of who was lurking in the shadows lately and it was a ton of people, big names and newer guys alike. You want criticism? You can get criticism here. You want to see what we're eating for lunch? You can get that here. It doesn't have to be all or nothing, check back and comment every once in a while, or don't. Can we stop crapping up the place with "this place is dead" posts? Thats certainly not doing anything to help welcome and encourage participation from new users, and the negativity and debbie downer party is getting super annoying.
  • Cutty.

    You big crybabies.

    <3
  • cmeyers

    Cutty. said:Do we really need to do grand farewells? I mean, theres loads of "post your facebook / ig / twitter" threads if you just wanted to give us your contact info. If you don't want to post here anymore, just dont post here. We're all still here, lurking in the shadows, theres just not really a whole lot to talk about that we don't all talk about on facebook.

    If you get something out of it and want to participate for the sake of participating, then do it. If you don't get anything out of it and don't need or want to post your tees on mintees, then don't. But making an official "i'm going to stop posting here now, but I'll probably still lurk every once in a while" post just seem silly. And I'm not really aiming this directly at you, Cmeyers, you're great, but everybody's so freaking dramatic around here lately. Its a freaking forum. Its not the end of the world if its slow. If theres a reason for people to post here, they will. If somebody makes a topic worth commenting on, we will. I mean, we did a roll call of who was lurking in the shadows lately and it was a ton of people, big names and newer guys alike. You want criticism? You can get criticism here. You want to see what we're eating for lunch? You can get that here. It doesn't have to be all or nothing, check back and comment every once in a while, or don't. Can we stop crapping up the place with "this place is dead" posts? Thats certainly not doing anything to help welcome and encourage participation from new users, and the negativity and debbie downer party is getting super annoying.

    forgive me if i came off as negative, i wasn't trying to be, and i wasn't trying to make a grand farewell. just a little "hey i'm not gonna be around so follow me at these outlets if you want". wasn't trying to be a crybaby or complain or anything like that, although when i gave specific reasons it may have come across that way.

    it really isn't a big deal, and i'm not mad, i'm not upset, and i feel like it's getting blown out of proportion.

    to me, it's more of a thing where if i have 5 ways for someone to get into contact with me, and i want to reduce that, i'll let them know that i'm not going to be able to be reached at one of those. it's just me choosing to not spread myself so thin and have a more focused social interaction when it comes to my design work. that's all.
  • Killer Napkins


    Adieu! Adieu! To you and you and yoooOOOU.
  • Cutty.

    Totally. Like I said, its not just you, or even specifically about this topic. I check back less often than I used to, but it seems like every time I check back theres a new topic about how this place is dead or pointless, this was just the most recent one along those lines. I just wish everyone would quit being so dramatic and participate when they feel inspired, or not.

    This place still has some quality discussions and posts from time to time, they just happen in slow motion.
  • cmeyers

    Cutty. said:Totally. Like I said, its not just you, or even specifically about this topic. I check back less often than I used to, but it seems like every time I check back theres a new topic about how this place is dead or pointless, this was just the most recent one along those lines. I just wish everyone would quit being so dramatic and participate when they feel inspired, or not.

    This place still has some quality discussions and posts from time to time, they just happen in slow motion.

    for sure. and not like i'm gonna delete my account or anything. so i may pop back in at some point.
  • itcamefromthesky

    I've contemplated leaving as well, but I just can't.

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