OK, so I have called out this fuckwad before. Some people on this site, went to his defense and said I was being out of line etc etc.
I have talked with him, 4 separate times. First time he says.

"I'm sorry I am wrong, I won't do it again, but if you see any designs come up in the next month, it's because they are old approvals, you know how bands are LOL"

I have talked to him on 3 other occasions after this now, and it's getting kindddd of ridiculous. I realize that the whole sport / hardcore / street wear thing, isn't original. Companies like Merch Connection have over saturated this market to where their whole site looks like the same fucking thing with a different band name. I don't own that, that's fine. What I do own, is layout, presentation, shading, text layout, etc etc. I have to try and make something as retarded and generic as the common Merch Connection design, and make it look cool and somewhat presentable for me to feature on my portfolio. Merch Connection also jocks me from time to time, but much like Tim, I have had this conversation with them, only to have it blamed on "an intern that no longer works here" Ok...

this isn't about Merch Connection, it's about Tim. This dude is just an all out Design Punisher. The dude has ZERO identity.

Here are his word for word excuses every time he gets called out

"the are RANDOM college type design which you can get in every store on the whole wide world."

"this is just something MEGA random which you can see on so many old soccer fanshirts"

when calling him out on using my texture, this was in November of last year (TIME STAMPS BITCH)



"I absolutly understand what you said the last time. I absolutly used your chrome texture effect. But I don't think you can say I still do it. I use normal textures and put them into my designs. I do think you came up with that mnethod to gice a design this cool one color chrome effect. I don't do this anymore and I never touched it after we chatted about it. But you're saying I'm not allowed to work in a way everyone is working? Everyone uses this kind of texture, puts into a layer and sets the outline the way you or I do it. Again, I think I stopped with the texturing but come on, the way I do it 1000 other dudes are doing it. The fact that we work for the same bands doesnt change that"

when called out AGAIN he says this

" I used to do this but I never did that againa fter we chatted. But I wont stop using textures the way I use it. Because it looks different. I work for metal bands of course I'm going for a gritty texture look. If a band would go with other designs I would do that in a heartbeat. It gets boring doing the same shit over and over again. But these scene bands want these kinds of stuff. And don't act like ALL my stuff looks like yours. I do alot of different stuff. I think I kept my word."

then yesterday, dude uploaded new images. and I see a kaufman rip



and this...
I dont want to be a guy who is "reaching" to find a rip. But come on, arched text, spiked 3d lines? Angled black shading?



Sick X design. I'm going to put TIJ and oh yea, theres another spot. I'll just put a fucking DASH there. Jesus christ.

Then I saw these 2. One is by me, and the other one is by some dude named Ric, I dont know his design name, as his instagram has been taken down



in January I saw these preorder designs on merch now. Sure enough, Tim did it....



his response

"come on kyle, it was a design i did soooooooooooooooooooooooo many years ago and just changed up for ES. I ge totally get what you are saying. but I didnt saw the fearless design."

If I am being completely out of line, please step up and let me know. I have "done the right thing" and messaged him NUMEROUS times without bringing the "mintees/emptees drama". I feel like he needs to see it from his fellow peers and maybe he'll fucking stop. Or maybe he'll continue to play stupid and think that because he lives in Germany, the rules don't apply to him.

I am inspired by a lot of things. But I don't look and replicate anything. I see something, it inspires me and I do my own version. I make up a lot of things on my own along the way. Did I invent the script type on a shirt? nope. What about crests? Nope. I get that being the top guy in this sort of thing, these things will happen. It's just more annoying when you ask someone to stop (numerous times), and they don't

you can check out all of tim's awesome work here

https://www.facebook.com/ThroneDesign
http://www.tim-minarzik.com/
  • JeremyRichie

  • DanielAndHisArt

    kyle right now

  • Matt Borchert

    AND IT'S ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE WHO POSTED ABOVE ME!

    Tune in tomorrow to see who!
  • JeremyRichie

    Matt Borchert said:AND IT'S ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE WHO POSTED ABOVE ME!

    Tune in tomorrow to see who!

  • Tyler.nu Design

    I don't understand whats going on
  • DanielAndHisArt

    Tyler.nu Design said:I don't understand whats going on

    look at sir crawfords twitter.

    someone told on him and he got mad.

    so now someone must pay.

    it would be really cool if the person came in here before kyle called them out and called kyle out. DO IT.

  • JeremyRichie

    I just wanna see how many wrestling gifs and images this post can get.
  • Tyler.nu Design

    Snitches...
  • thedepths

    had to go peep twitter to see whats up. i guess i'd be pretty mad/bummed if i worked on some designs and then got screwed out of them being accepted- especially if it was a band i was super jazzed to be working with. hopefully we get to find out what band it was.
  • dobi

  • DanielAndHisArt

    thedepths said:had to go peep twitter to see whats up. i guess i'd be pretty mad/bummed if i worked on some designs and then got screwed out of them being accepted- especially if it was a band i was super jazzed to be working with. hopefully we get to find out what band it was.

    well, if kyle was right and a dude IN a band is the one who ratted, im sure it would be pretty easy to narrow down if they are on mintees.
  • Keenankoso

  • Cameron Latham

  • JeremyRichie

  • 8-bit ZOMBIE

    This is already amazing.
  • austin pardun

  • DanielAndHisArt

  • Sam Kaufman

    I don't think this has anything to do with Kyle's twitter post, but stay tuned...
  • Tyler.nu Design

    Its tomorrow, i want to know who it is.

  • chriskillerartworx

  • Who is Ryan C.

    I have no idea what the fuck is going on, but okay...

  • Matt Borchert

    Sam Kaufman said:I don't think this has anything to do with Kyle's twitter post, but stay tuned...

    I may have stolen all of his designs and sold them on the Iceland black market for artwork.

    I never thought he would notice, the Icelandic people are so good at hiding secrets.
  • Kyle Crawford

    ohhhh yeaaaaaaaaa
  • Tyler.nu Design

    Whos tim? I thought you were calling out D-Dub at first because you posted his link. Gota make it more clear if you're gunna hype it this hard.
  • JeremyRichie



    I mean these are all pretty close occurrences. He's lying if he says they are all just random. There are just too many similar elements.
  • Kyle Crawford

    apparently, he thinks this is hilarious

  • Tyler.nu Design

    For those who were out of the loop like me...
    https://www.facebook.com/ThroneDesign/photos_stream

    I gota say this look like a kyle design.
  • Sam Kaufman

    I'd be ironic if that AAL design was approved, because I don't have much luck with them.
  • Cameron Latham

    As you said, you didn't invent script or crest tee designs. However, being one of the top designers in your industry, the distinct style you have in creating these types of tees has set a trend that others are surely asked to recreate.

    You could argue that he was just doing his job, but who of us hasn't been asked to recreate the style of another designer? And if we are, the vast majority of us would put our own spin on that style so as to make it our own, rather than completely biting the other designer.

    I think the issue is not one of simply designing for trends, but that Kyle's style has become a trend in itself. That said, anyone following this "trend" can be accused of ripping or style-biting. The question is, are those accusations just?

    In some cases, no. However, I personally think that Tim follows your style a bit too closely to simply brush it off as following the trend. The same could be said about the D-Dub rips.

    D-Dub's style of album artwork has become synonymous with scenecore and djent bands, therefore, a lot of prospective clients who may not want to pay D-Dub prices would go to someone like Tim with portfolio pieces similar to D-Dub in order to get that style for a fraction of the cost.

    I believe that Tim is like you said, a designer with no identity. He's simply able to recreate popular designers' styles and offers them for a lower price than the real deal, which attracts cheapskate bands, management companies, and record labels who are always looking to cut costs. There are hundreds of designers just like him; it's just that no one knows who they are and no one cares. Why? Because they're just the Wal-Mart brands of high-end products.
  • justinbryant

    Tyler.nu Design said:For those who were out of the loop like me...

    https://www.facebook.com/ThroneDesign/photos_stream

    I gota say this look like a kyle design.


    This screams Crawford.

    I can relate to being asked to re-create a certain style, Kaufman and Crawford being 2 examples. But as Cameron said, I feel there is way of doing it without totally ripping off another designer's pieces. I personally struggle with feeling as if I don't have an "identity" in design, especially merch, but I've always tried to keep versatile. Learn different looks to provide whatever a client may ask for. Is that me being naive to not come to the conclusion that I just suck at what I do?
  • asaule



    looking through his whole portfolio and FB page he has consistently produced as well as reproduced variations of the same style or "trend." It's not just one design, there are many examples in there of the "Knock off Crawford":
    same layout, type, shading, texture, etc. as Kyle without the development, experience, thought process, unique touch and attitude to the design that is Kyle.

    From a distance you would think it was Kyle's but upon second look and further inspection you find it's not as well as that "something" that makes it Kyle is missing and lacking.

    To sound high art, he took parts of Kyle's design Oeuvre (the consistent through line or identification of the works of a writer, painter, or the like, taken as a whole) without understanding of, experience, and or being Kyle himself that makes his designs his.

    Sorry if I just repeated myself three different times, three different ways.

    Also, I'm not trying to ride Kyle's nutz just to pile on. I understand the struggle of wanting to finding your own identity and voice in creating your own design work. Creating designs empty of yourself and an imitation of anthers style without improving upon or giving it your own spin as Cameron said.
  • babix

    justinbryant said:
    Tyler.nu Design said:For those who were out of the loop like me...

    https://www.facebook.com/ThroneDesign/photos_stream

    I gota say this look like a kyle design.


    This screams Crawford.

    I can relate to being asked to re-create a certain style, Kaufman and Crawford being 2 examples. But as Cameron said, I feel there is way of doing it without totally ripping off another designer's pieces. I personally struggle with feeling as if I don't have an "identity" in design, especially merch, but I've always tried to keep versatile. Learn different looks to provide whatever a client may ask for. Is that me being naive to not come to the conclusion that I just suck at what I do?
    i'm sure many designers felt the same, including me
  • JeremyRichie

    It's definitely the responsibility of the designer to abide by a code of conduct when it comes to being asked to re-create someones style. There's no doubt that Kyle (and Sam) have styles that have become standard in band merch. It's not hard to understand where the line is and how not to cross it.
  • DoomToof

  • dobi

    JeremyRichie said:It's definitely the responsibility of the designer to abide by a code of conduct when it comes to being asked to re-create someones style. There's no doubt that Kyle (and Sam) have styles that have become standard in band merch. It's not hard to understand where the line is and how not to cross it.

    yep, also, let down by this thread as kyle has called tim out before. WEAK.
  • cmeyers

    Tim did designs that look like kyle's? Shocking

    It's funny that he continues to do it though.
  • justinbryant

    JeremyRichie said:It's definitely the responsibility of the designer to abide by a code of conduct when it comes to being asked to re-create someones style. There's no doubt that Kyle (and Sam) have styles that have become standard in band merch. It's not hard to understand where the line is and how not to cross it.

    If I notice a band provides a lot of references from the same designer, I've went as far as give the band that designers information.
    No sense recreating something that someone else has already mastered.
  • Cameron Latham

  • TopJimmy

    Love begets Love.
  • JeremyRichie




    these are just terrible.

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