I have seen and read issues with Illustrators new Live Trace option which allows you to blah blah blah. My point is that when converting my drawings into Vector images using Live Trace, I can never seem to find that Golden Ratio which captures all the detail in the drawings (which are usually very detailed with cross hatching, stippling, etc.) Also my drawings are always black and white, I put the settings to ignore the white a black vector is the only thing produced so I can minimize colors used in the printing process.

Has anyone else had issues with Live Trace? Has anyone found a better software with a better version of Live Trace? Has anyone found that "golden ratio" of settings to get the most detail out of your drawings with only black? Or is the only solution to use 2 or maybe 3 more gradients of gray?
  • cmeyers

    why do you HAVE to live trace it? you know that's not the only way to print it right?
  • deekin

    Try resizing your original image to a larger size and see if that makes any difference. Even if upsizing makes the image to be live traced fuzzy and pixelated this doesn't effect the final outcome much, as long as your original image wasn't too small. I have a lot of luck in the 2000 pixel width range, but sometimes I will go up to 5-6000. Also play around with the live trace settings to make your own custom settings. My 2 cents…
  • UrsidaeDesign

    cmeyers said:why do you HAVE to live trace it? you know that's not the only way to print it right?

    Yes I know there are many ways to do, I only use Live Trace for maybe 1/3 of the designs I do. It was just a question regarding my problem with it.
    deekin said:Try resizing your original image to a larger size and see if that makes any difference. Even if upsizing makes the image to be live traced fuzzy and pixelated this doesn't effect the final outcome much, as long as your original image wasn't too small. I have a lot of luck in the 2000 pixel width range, but sometimes I will go up to 5-6000. Also play around with the live trace settings to make your own custom settings. My 2 cents…

    Thanks a lot deekin that makes sense, I'll try sizing up next time
  • cmeyers

    noted. well yes, adding to what deekin said, it's one of those things where the more information live trace has to work with, the better the results will be.
  • UrsidaeDesign

    I get yall, I gotta work with it, not it works with me
  • babix

    i remembered using a good tracing software named cocoapotrace or something. output is better than ai's livetrace
  • kayas

    live trace in Adobe Illustrator cs5 better. I am still using it, besides I use cs6.
  • Obscure

    I know this comment might blow a few peoples minds but.....

    You don't need to make everything a vector to get it screen printed.

    I get asked this question maybe 10 times a week from customers.
  • UrsidaeDesign

    kayas said:live trace in Adobe Illustrator cs5 better. I am still using it, besides I use cs6.

    Yeah I've read that somewhere, the only bad thing is that I have the new Creative Cloud, and it updates the software automatically. So I have cs6 and can't go back
    Obscure said:I know this comment might blow a few peoples minds but.....

    You don't need to make everything a vector to get it screen printed.

    I get asked this question maybe 10 times a week from customers.

    Yeah I know there's a full color like photo printing process, but the printers I work with have an insane price for anything other than a vector type of print. That's just how I work
  • ForWhomTheBellTolls

    Obscure said:I know this comment might blow a few peoples minds but.....

    You don't need to make everything a vector to get it screen printed.

    I get asked this question maybe 10 times a week from customers.

    Because sometimes live trace is the BEST way to achieve the effect you want. Besides this isn't a thread about 'should i live trace' it's about the problems of live tracing in CS6.

    I have CS5 at work and CS6 at home and have to say live trace in CS6 is HORRIBLE. It's nowhere near as refined and flexible as CS5 and it's very hard to find something workable. Your best bet is to make the raster file you are working on a big as you can and as high DPI as you can so there is a lot of info there. I have the settings nearly maxed out in CS6 and it's only half as good as a normal trace in CS5. They've really screwed with the format for no good reason, I hate it when companies change stuff that works fine so that it makes it worse, just doesn't make sense to me.
  • Lmerrill

    ForWhomTheBellTolls said:
    Obscure said:I know this comment might blow a few peoples minds but.....

    You don't need to make everything a vector to get it screen printed.

    I get asked this question maybe 10 times a week from customers.

    Your best bet is to make the raster file you are working on a big as you can and as high DPI as you can so there is a lot of info there.

    You should always do this if your'e going to livetrace, regardless of which version you're using. I can offer advice on vectorizing a raster image in photoshop using the path tools, if you'd like that, although you seem pretty adamant about using illustrator.
  • deekin

    I just realized this post was about CS6. My earlier comment is coming from my experience with CS3. I have't felt the need to upgrade just yet…

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