someone had to do it. sooo what gives?
Posted August 8th, 2013 by Kyle Crawford
I won't even be nice about it. But, what gives on this site? no one gives a fuck about anythinggggggg. A top design is something that has 3 likes. The highest liked design in forever is pitch's santa cruz design. no one participates in discussions, no one does anything. What's the point of keeping this, or band job open at all?
People hype their texture packs or brand shit, and even then no one even cares. but, good thing we still get the mock up question on the weekly
Or maybe I'm just being a negative piece of shit?
People hype their texture packs or brand shit, and even then no one even cares. but, good thing we still get the mock up question on the weekly
Or maybe I'm just being a negative piece of shit?
229 Comments
TenTimesKarma said about 5 years ago
Cameron Latham said about 5 years ago
Yep. BandJob and Foalio are even worse. Dribbble's been a bit slower as of late, too. Thought it was just me.
Matt Borchert said about 5 years ago
But yeah, there is some super-rad art that gets sub 10 likes, even some that is lucky to get 1, but I don't necessarily know what to do in order to make it better other than finding a better solution to mini mods and artwork approval.
Kyle Crawford said about 5 years ago
cmeyers said about 5 years ago
no one wants to see cookies, the mini mods want to sift through all the t-shirts being submitted and pick which ones are community worthy, and the non-mods want to "like" tees.
duh.
Jason Carne said about 5 years ago
Kyle Crawford said about 5 years ago
people gave a shit. this place isnt just for "band tees"
I remember at one point the hype for threadless was so bad, they had to make a promote this thread
calling out ripper, community coming together to destroy the ripper
heated debates, all this shit
now its crickets
good news is, you can get 20 likes and maybe get tee of the day eventually. if that still matters to anyone
cmeyers said about 5 years ago
fully agree.
the most exciting thing that happened recently was the pokemon hybrid thing.
Jason Carne said about 5 years ago
cmeyers said about 5 years ago
for the forums, it's like you said. they're boring. no one cares.
Sol Amstutz said about 5 years ago
Sure, there's still some cool stuff going on here, but it's so damn hard for me to find it because of all the other dumb shit I have to sift through to get to it. It's just not the same anymore for some reason.
Cameron Latham said about 5 years ago
Agreed. Having to login every two or three clicks gets annoying. Contests (I'm assuming that's what a tee-off was; those might have been before my time on the site) and random fun junk like the Pokemon hybrid thread could spice things up for sure. More mini-mods to get the queue through faster would help as well.
cmeyers said about 5 years ago
getting the tees through faster won't make people care any more.
Kyle Crawford said about 5 years ago
what dont you like, would you be upset if it closed?
etc etc
if good outweighs the bad, then shut it down. It's like watching a wounded dog suffer a long grueling death
just patch it up or pull the fucking trigger
Jason Carne said about 5 years ago
Sol Amstutz said about 5 years ago
The only emails I get from people who saw work here aren't serious and/or are looking for a lame deal or handout.
Cameron Latham said about 5 years ago
This.
But yes, that is true. Pushing more tees through wouldn't necessarily help. I don't really have a solution, I guess. The recent "bigger" job postings, albeit spec work, have been nice. The Kiss brawl on BandJob got things shaking around there for a bit, but now it's just as dead as it was before. I really only go on here to vote on tees and check the job section for the most part anymore.
Somaon said about 5 years ago
akillerwombat said about 5 years ago
Matt Borchert said about 5 years ago
On a lot of different design websites you promote other people's work as a means to get your own work seen. Think how on dribbble if someone promotes your work, your work becomes visible to those who follow the dude who hit like. Same thing goes on Society6 where posts have an endless stream of "cool! neat!" - people promote in hopes of getting their own work noticed.
Here you post your work and hope it hits community selected, and that's it. There is no incentive to hit like other than to show some love...but...human nature has a way of making people ask "what's in it for me?" To fix this though the whole sites structure would need to be rebuilt...not an easy task....and I guess the bigger question to that would be if you are basically remaking dribbble's structure...why not just use dribbble?
Ah well, back to work.
Killer Napkins said about 5 years ago
Clients definitely don't come around here much anymore.. I remember when you used to get TOTD it meant that your email would blow up with potential clients. Now it is nothing.
Not sure what the solution could be...
Agreeing with cmeyers, definitely seeing a lot of regurgitated ideas floating around.
Need more poop pics, and more exciting tee-offs... We also need Edgil back.
closetnerd said about 5 years ago
That's just it. It doesn't benefit anyone anymore.
Matt, you hit the head on the nail. Dribbble just seems like a huge circle jerk most days. Just go through some people's "like" section... you can see some people just like EVERYTHING so they can gain some followers.
Everyone's so worried about promoting their work rather than some kind of community.
Menta said about 5 years ago
Tom Philibeck said about 5 years ago
It's a bummer, but I see no way to fix it.
Cameron Latham said about 5 years ago
Yep. Matt's definitely onto something. I do much prefer Dribbble to Mintees as a website, but I like Mintees more so community-wise because it's almost entirely folks from the music/apparel industry. If Mintees could structurally become more like Dribbble (notifaction system, contests, etc.), but keep the community and forum and such, it'd be great.
I think we just need another Brandon Day.
Denimous Snake said about 5 years ago
I love Mintees, and you guys, I like this community. It is a little ghost town-ish (Which by the way Kyle, I saw on your facebook awhile ago you didn't like Ghost Town by Owen, did you hear the new record?) but fuck it. The pokemon thing was dope. Shit talking threads are dope, you guys are hilarious and helpful. I'd rather watch it limp like a dead dog walking if it means we get one thread like the pokemon one a month, as opposed to having to track you all down on various social media sites, etc.
We're all designers, let's come up with something. I've been fooling around with a Mintees app for awhile now, but without any type of permissions, it's a little tough.
CoreyMV said about 5 years ago
Kyle Crawford said about 5 years ago
ghost town ruled, new album is eh
8-bit ZOMBIE said about 5 years ago
I love Mintees for what it is. But the only way it'll get more active is if everyone starts participating more. Which isn't really something you can force, haha. But there's definitely still ways to get people active and involved. (Stuff like the Pokey-mans thread) A lot of the magic definitely died with Emptees but Mintees is still a great place. As some people have mentioned, this site is STILL an absolutely amazing resource for everyone new to the game. I think a lot of us are just jaded and forget what it was like to not know anything.
On the tee side of things - I don't really know what will help there. It's sad to see so many rad designs go unloved. But to be honest, I don't even really check the tees section too often anymore either. Seems like that side of the site is dying for sure.
Ellis said about 5 years ago
I understand it's probably not good practice to give tips to potential competitors, but I think something like that would add a cool, collaborative edge to this community. After all, it is meant to be a 'community.'
Something similar to skillshare, but more specific to t-shirt/poster design and less drawn out.
Mintees could have a 'Featured Artist' every week that either presents the recorded tutorial or does some sort of live streaming class. In return, they are featured on the homepage and can some exposure that way. Something aside from the standard SOTD on the homepage.
This place definitely has the potential to expand into a much broader environment.
miles to go said about 5 years ago
bums me out but what can you do?
cmeyers said about 5 years ago
i hate the idea that anyone would refrain from helping "potential competitors". i understand a certain aspect of not revealing too many secrets, but an unwillingness to teach new techniques and tricks to fellow designers is pretty ridiculous. it's our job to use those techniques in our own new way, but refusing to share ideas and techniques with each other is a sad thing.
Matt Borchert said about 5 years ago
I do intend on doing a handful of videos over the next few months for some things like texture on type options, creating mockups from t-shirts, and masking model shots...but they take a good chunk of time and I haven't gotten around to it all yet.
Denimous Snake said about 5 years ago
Make it more like a social network.
Have an artist of the week where he posts a video doing a little bio along with drawing / whatevering something cool.
Have a live chat feature!
Clean the resources section up. Honestly, I scour it for free / cheap stuff. Not for a random article on App user interfaces. Maybe make it a freebies section! Or make a freebies section! Change the designs for sale section into more of a store! Sorted by community votes, most liked shirts go to the top of the store, and the person can buy it right there. That way the rad designs get bought.
NVasion said about 5 years ago
I have log-in problems as well. I still check the site pretty often but when I see a cool shirt I'm just too lazy to log in and click the like button. With facebook, dribbble, instagram and tumblr there are so many platforms where people post their work and most of the time that's where I see a new shirt design for the first time. So of course I comment and like stuff right away when I see it.
I think when this place got started the quality control was very tight. A lot of shirts got rejected. Sometimes that was harsh but the site looked good. The designers only posted their best work. Now there's so much mediocre stuff that gets through and it's harder to find some gems in there. Maybe a lot of the minimods are too generous, I don't know, I don't even look at the queue. It must be even harder to find gems in there.
And yeah, all the e-mails I get from people who found my work on mintees are those "how much?"-mails. I reply and I never hear from them again. Maybe these emails would stop coming if this place would not be filled with people who are selling their designs for low prices. Shady clients might just give up looking for cheap designs. Designing and uploading something for sale also seems more and more pointless. It's not the right way of selling designs to begin with but it used to work pretty well. Now I'd much rather spend my time drawing pokemon
Ellis said about 5 years ago
Once tutorials are posted, people can start sharing their work based on the things they've learned. If some of the artists are willing to be even more collaborative, it could be a little more similar to skillshare in the sense that they can continue to offer advice in a board related to their tutorial.
I'm not trying to jack skillshares concept either, considering thats exactly what the idea sounds like, but it would be cool to just have that little additional feature on this site.
bmoore said about 5 years ago
ps- it's Trash Talk Thursday.
DrewGliever said about 5 years ago
Eureka!!! said about 5 years ago
I will say that if it wasn't for this site I probably would have never attempted to learn the fundamentals of design and get into the design world. But honestly it feels uber cliquey, with the exception of a few people, again I haven't talked to everyone. Hence why i no loner really try to be apart of the community.
HaydnChapman said about 5 years ago
There are tons of ways you could make it more active. You could take an approach like Hypebeast (which isn't the best example but they've got a good thing going), where you could have articles about clothing, interviews with designers, maybe the odd informative video or two and give people incentive to go to the forums while waiting for the next thing. I think the major problem I see is that, after you sign up and post a tee or make a thread, what keeps you sticking around for long periods of time? There is only so much you can do when it boils down to making designs, looking at designs, and talking about shirts.