Maybe I was blinded by ignorance, But i really didn't see this coming... I really don't like the idea of renting software, but surprisingly people in my design class, who happen to be mature adults, see no problem in this move Adobe has made.



http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57582735-92/adobe-kills-creative-suite-goes-subscription-only/
  • wotto

    Yeah I'm not sure about this. At this cheaper price I think the "everyone's a designer" trend will get way worse. I also wonder if you'll be able to rent just the packages you use or just the whole "suite"?
  • jumpy

    we pay a lot more for Adobe software in Australia so renting is a good idea, (if we get the same prices as other country). The full suite used to cost nearly $4000 :( and that didnt include all the newer cloud tools like Edge

    Plus they should be able to update it more often and keep users up to date.
  • Eureka!!!

    wotto said:Yeah I'm not sure about this. At this cheaper price I think the "everyone's a designer" trend will get way worse. I also wonder if you'll be able to rent just the packages you use or just the whole "suite"?

    I think you hit the nail on the head, from my understanding you can download the apps you need and you don't need to be connected to the internet to use them. But with this logic why not provide people with the ability to make a one time purchase for the software, instead of holding them hostage to paying monthly for more upgrades.
  • Eureka!!!

    jumpy said:we pay a lot more for Adobe software in Australia so renting is a good idea, (if we get the same prices as other country). The full suite used to cost nearly $4000 :( and that didnt include all the newer cloud tools like Edge

    Plus they should be able to update it more often and keep users up to date.

    How long do youplan on using the software, it doesn't make sense to rent. In the long run your going to be paying a lot more than if you would have outright bought it.

    it's like tmobile selling the iphone, which costs about $600 on their new everyone gets cheap phone plans deal. Id rather go to AT&T and pay the 99cents and get my 3GS and pay that one time fee to buy the phone.
  • jumpy

    If i payed off a no interest loan of $4000 at $50 per month it'd take 6 years and my product would be out of date by 3-4 years. BUT again Its different for Australians because of the massive price different.
  • William Henry

    So is this going to effectively end people pirating Adobe CS?
  • Sushilove

    If you think about it, it isn't a bad idea. I will be more happy paying a monthly fee and getting all the updates than having to invest a lot of money at once. It's obviously better for Adobe too as it will get them more new users.
    I'm more than happy using CS4 at the moment, I don't really feel the need for an update, but for that price I might think about it.
  • zb

    I hate that it's mandatory...I understand the pros...but I hate cloud based stuff in general
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  • Sushilove

    ^^people like that aren't going to pay monthly for software neither... they are still going to download a cracked copy or borrow it from a friend.
  • cmeyers

    Sushilove said:^^people like that aren't going to pay monthly for software neither... they are still going to download a cracked copy or borrow it from a friend.

    yep. i don't think that will change much. the old versions will always be available somewhere. those kids won't be paying $50 a month.
  • Matt Borchert

    This won't really change anything in terms of more people trying to be "designers" Those people just stole the damn programs anyways. This is actually a much more cost effective method for the vast majority of situations.
  • deadhippo

    wotto said: I also wonder if you'll be able to rent just the packages you use or just the whole "suite"?

    You can rent one app: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html

    And according to Lifehacker the price will drop from $20 to $10 / month. I think that is awesome. $120/year and always have the latest version.

    http://lifehacker.com/adobe-kills-creative-suite-goes-subscription-only-inst-493181376
  • Eureka!!!

    zb said:I hate that it's mandatory...I understand the pros...but I hate cloud based stuff in general

    ^^This

    Deadhippo, is it really worth it in the end? obviously at the end of the day they are just tools, but it shouldn't be mandatory for individuals to be forced to purchase cloud based software. I'm fine with my CS4 as well, but I don't see them operating on this model for very long.
  • deadhippo

    I'm not sure really. When we get more details I we'll have a better idea.
    With one subscription will we be able to use the software across multiple devices...looks like we will be. And if the processing is being done online we will be able to use low powered machines like Chromebooks, tablets and netbooks to design. The data will also be in the cloud so we will be able to work on the same project in different locations on different computers.

    Of course there will be pros and cons. For people like me, who have high-speed internet access 24/7 regardless of location that's great but for people who always work from home there is not much benefit from the cloud-based system apart from always having the latest version.

    But I do understand what you are getting at. I used PhotoShop CS until a year or two ago. And Macromedia Dreamweaver until not long before that. (Text editor now.)

    But for those who always want the latest version I think it's great.
  • William Henry

    Eureka!!! said:
    zb said:I hate that it's mandatory...I understand the pros...but I hate cloud based stuff in general

    ^^This

    Deadhippo, is it really worth it in the end? obviously at the end of the day they are just tools, but it shouldn't be mandatory for individuals to be forced to purchase cloud based software. I'm fine with my CS4 as well, but I don't see them operating on this model for very long.

    I don't see them going back. They wouldn't have implemented this so soon if it wasn't working for them. Cloud based services is the future. I don't see any reason for Adobe to abandon this model.

    I know this doesn't have anything to do with the argument, but I don't know how anyone can use anything before CS5. Not having tabbed windows would drive me nuts.
  • BluCanoe

    I've been using Creative Cloud for months and aside from issues I always have to seem with the app that manages the downloads of the programs, I can't complain.

    I love it, in fact.
  • cityhall

    I like the student rate. And its kind of cool that you get literally every program (right?)

    Also is Muse pretty cool?
  • Anthony Smith

    I was considering making the change anyways. Looking forward to having that ipad publishing software thingy.
  • vad_ns

    I am using it for few month already, and i like it a lot. I think many people will find it as a good alternative option.... Muse is cool and easy to use for simple websites, and you have hosting included with your subscription.
  • fuggart

    cityhall said:I like the student rate. And its kind of cool that you get literally every program (right?)

    Also is Muse pretty cool?

    It's OOOOKKKKKKKK.... nothing to shit the bed over though. Very basic and limited. If you know even the most basic HTML and CSS you could probably create a more visually striking website faster IMO.
  • Anthony Smith

    fuggart said:
    cityhall said:I like the student rate. And its kind of cool that you get literally every program (right?)

    Also is Muse pretty cool?

    It's OOOOKKKKKKKK.... nothing to shit the bed over though. Very basic and limited. If you know even the most basic HTML and CSS you could probably create a more visually striking website faster IMO.

    Does it create a shit ton of unnecessary code along with it? I hear that is its biggest flaw.
  • MylesB

    Thank you for all of your feedback on the latest release of Photoshop. There is some inaccurate information out there, and we want you to know that Photoshop CC may cost less than you think. If you're a Photoshop CS3 or higher customer, Photoshop CC starts as low as $9.99 USD per month for a single-app membership. If you don't want to upgrade, you can still purchase Photoshop CS6 as a perpetual license.

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