Lately I've had a small interest in coding (HTML & CSS), and I was wondering...how long does it take people to learn this stuff?
  • Matt Borchert

    About a week to get somewhat proficient...a few months to get decent....a lifetime to master.
  • MylesB

    Would say that after a few months, you were able to completely build a website through coding?
  • Matt Borchert

    Definitely, but I learn things unusually quick.

    I'd check out http://www.codecademy.com/ as a great way to begin learning.
  • MylesB

    Matt Borchert said:Definitely, but I learn things unusually quick.

    I'd check out http://www.codecademy.com/ as a great way to begin learning.

    I learn things quick also. Yep, CodeAcademy is what I'm using. I'm almost done with the HTML portion, but I feel like theres alot more to be learn about HTML....does CodeAcademy just scratch the surface? Or is this really all there is to learn about HTML?
  • Matt Borchert

    I'd highly recommend getting a large HTML / CSS resource book.
  • Vokesy

    Taught myself the basics (editing templates and whatnot) in about a week.... Still working on building from scratch... and I've been working on and off on sites for over five years now.

    I'd recommend the dummies guide to HTML and a Dreamweaver cs5 (or 6?) book.
  • dbdesign

    Here are two really great resources:

    http://www.w3schools.com

    http://www.lynda.com/18H
  • fuggart

    it took me less than a week to learn HTML and CSS proficiently enough to build websites but it's not an easy ride if you want to learn code properly. I gave up unfortunately as it was too much to take in when working full time on visuals
  • Ellis

    My advice to someone starting out is to create a really solid mockup -- learn the fundamentals of web design before moving into the code, especially if you're a designer coming from a more traditional background of print based design.

    Once you have a mockup completed with some good direction for what you want the website to accomplish, you basically just teach yourself. Books are great to learn standard markup and to get your feet wet, but a lot of the information is very broad and useless.

    Start making small websites with basic HTML and CSS and when you want to tackle something a little more ambitious, search via Google for a written explanation or YouTube for a video tutorial. I've always found it's easier to learn something as vast as coding by starting out with the things that interest you. For example, if you want to learn how to make a cool drop down menu, search for tutorials of that, try it yourself and then move on. Over time, you should develop a pretty good grasp on how things work, and how the code can be manipulated to create some pretty awesome stuff.

    A good resource is http://www.stackoverflow.com -- you can search for posts by others with similar issues, or post your own question and get answers from web developers who are more experienced with coding.
  • Perception Apparel

  • cityhall

    Also get firebug. Its a browser extension for firefox and chrome that lets you inspect detailed elements and it really helps you see how your CSS is affecting your website.
  • Ellis

    cityhall said:Also get firebug. Its a browser extension for firefox and chrome that lets you inspect detailed elements and it really helps you see how your CSS is affecting your website.

    Yeah, that's a great tool, too. You can adjust the code using Firebug right in your browser to see how it will effect the site without making any official changes. Once you get it to look right, you can copy the code from Firebug and make the adjustments to your file.
  • MylesB

    Thank you everyone for the replies and knowledge.

    Perception Apparel said:This is a great book that covers all the basics and is very easy and enjoyable to read.





    http://www.amazon.com/HTML-CSS-Design-Build-Websites/dp/1118008189/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367853648&sr=1-1&keywords=html+and+css

    Yep, Ive been looking at this book and I'm definitely interested in getting it...seems like a great resource and a great way to learn
  • Sam Weinberg

    dbdesign said:Here are two really great resources:

    http://www.w3schools.com

    w3schools.com is a really bad place to learn. http://w3fools.com
  • downrodeo

    You can read the books recommended above, they will most certainly help. But at the same time don't forget to keep practicing. Start with trying to build a very simple framework, and to understand what each code does. As per what Ellis said.

    When I first started learning, I just copied out the source code of the site I liked, and tried to duplicate it on my own machine. It went horrible, but I learned something from there that day. It's a long, ongoing process [10 years a web designer, still learning new stuff] but just like the artists on here, practice is important.

    Also, asking questions help. If you need anything, you can hit me up on my e-mail. You gotta try first of course, but from time to time you will get stuck. If google can't solve it, there's coders out there who can. Hope that helps dude.
  • MylesB

    downrodeo said:You can read the books recommended above, they will most certainly help. But at the same time don't forget to keep practicing. Start with trying to build a very simple framework, and to understand what each code does. As per what Ellis said.

    When I first started learning, I just copied out the source code of the site I liked, and tried to duplicate it on my own machine. It went horrible, but I learned something from there that day. It's a long, ongoing process [10 years a web designer, still learning new stuff] but just like the artists on here, practice is important.

    Also, asking questions help. If you need anything, you can hit me up on my e-mail. You gotta try first of course, but from time to time you will get stuck. If google can't solve it, there's coders out there who can. Hope that helps dude.

    I might have to take you up on your offer about emailing you. I'll check for your email on your profile.

    Today I finished the Web Fundamentals on Codecademy.com so I think I have a good grip on the fundamentals. I think I'm at that point where I have to take what I've learned and start trying to build stuff. I think I'm gunna take the photoshop to html/css route and hopefully I can learn how to build sites from scratch.

    Thanks for the replies everyone...hasn't even been a month since I started learning this stuff and I think I'm making good progress.
  • treycook

    You can learn the basics pretty quickly. As far as knowing when and why to implement what, it's just like any other craft.
  • IDIOTSMASHER2014

    Matt Borchert said:About a week to get somewhat proficient...a few months to get decent....a lifetime to master.

    I created this account so I could call this FUNKING IDIOT.. A donut dunking doo doo stain an idiot. What a stupid answer. That just goes to show how much intelligence is in the grey mass in your skull. It doesn't take a week to get proficient, you don't even know what you are doing when you first start out let alone be proficient. A few months to get decent? Get real. You have a grasp of how it works but you are by no means decent. A lifetime to master?? Okay jingle dong. I'd wager to master html would take a couple years of steady practice. Although this would depend on your html teacher. Nothing takes a life time to master unless you are a dunce. Which means.. yep.
  • sharksinyermouth

    IDIOTSMASHER2014 said:
    Matt Borchert said:About a week to get somewhat proficient...a few months to get decent....a lifetime to master.

    I created this account so I could call this FUNKING IDIOT.. A donut dunking doo doo stain an idiot. What a stupid answer. That just goes to show how much intelligence is in the grey mass in your skull. It doesn't take a week to get proficient, you don't even know what you are doing when you first start out let alone be proficient. A few months to get decent? Get real. You have a grasp of how it works but you are by no means decent. A lifetime to master?? Okay jingle dong. I'd wager to master html would take a couple years of steady practice. Although this would depend on your html teacher. Nothing takes a life time to master unless you are a dunce. Which means.. yep.


  • kyleidoscope

    I found customising a template (bigcartel, tumblr, wordpress etc) with the aid of firefox firebug to be a really good way to learn the basics and also get an insight into how things can be structured. Stackoverflow also is super useful for learning to solve specific problems you may have.

    I always think it's better to have some sort of goal to work towards when learning code such as "I'll build a simple site for myself" rather than learning disconnected bits and pieces.

    Also take time to learn the overarching logic behind a language, because you effectively are learning to think in the same way as the people who created the language in the first place.

    Thus ends my hack advice.
  • Matt Borchert

    IDIOTSMASHER2014 said:
    Matt Borchert said:About a week to get somewhat proficient...a few months to get decent....a lifetime to master.

    I created this account so I could call this FUNKING IDIOT.. A donut dunking doo doo stain an idiot. What a stupid answer. That just goes to show how much intelligence is in the grey mass in your skull. It doesn't take a week to get proficient, you don't even know what you are doing when you first start out let alone be proficient. A few months to get decent? Get real. You have a grasp of how it works but you are by no means decent. A lifetime to master?? Okay jingle dong. I'd wager to master html would take a couple years of steady practice. Although this would depend on your html teacher. Nothing takes a life time to master unless you are a dunce. Which means.. yep.

    Well I've only been doing it professionally for about 15 years, so what do I know? Within a week you should be able to go in and edit wordpress style templates, which is just fine for the average user. The lifetime to master thing was more of a joke, but you will indeed need to keep learning your entire life if you want to be a top professional. <3 That being said, many things art / design do take a lifetime to master. You're never going to be "perfect." You're always learning in an attempt to master your craft.
  • laurabell

    I think a month is enough to know things.

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