I think is a good show but the story, mmm I feel that I've seen it countless times.

But any way, Any fans?
  • Joshua Jordan

    I was a little disappointed with the premier. The story in the novels is a lot better. My biggest peeve with the show is that some certain people are not dead yet.
  • Brock May

    the beginning was great, the rest was filler honestly.
  • William Henry

    The season premiere was a snooze fest. Just utterly boring. Ten minutes of plot stretched over 90 minutes. This show better pick up quickly or I'm done with it.
  • augie

  • A.Merkison

    Joshua Jordan said:I was a little disappointed with the premier. The story in the novels is a lot better. My biggest peeve with the show is that some certain people are not dead yet.

    It can't be the comics, nor is it trying to be. If it were a frame by frame...or even every 10th frame from the comics, nobody would watch it. It's 95% dialog and character exploration, and 5% zombies. The show right now is probably more in the 70:30 range, and even that is too slow for the average viewer. With that said, I didn't have any huge qualms with the premier. It was a bit of a drag-along, especially the whole church segment, but I think the greater point of it(and any season premier really for that matter) is to re-explore each character, who they are and why they are where they are. It did a relatively good job at that for the more important characters(at least from the show perspective, and obviously not from the novels) and the ending(for as corny as the whole "look at him go" cinematic was) was pretty good.

    I dunno, I like the series more than most...so I'm still relatively excited for it.
  • Cutty.

    Joshua Jordan said: My biggest peeve with the show is that some certain people are not dead yet.

    I haven't seen the premier of this season, but last season kind of lost me, for this reason especially. They should have just called it something else if they were going to totally change the story, its not really the Walking Dead at all, other than a few character similarities. Season one was pretty boring, I really wanted to like it, too.
  • Who is Ryan C.

    I can't with that dumbass little girl
  • 8-bit ZOMBIE

    Cutty. said:Season one was pretty boring, I really wanted to like it, too.

    Yep. By the end of season 1 I was pretty much over the entire thing. I did give the premier a chance last night though. More of the same unfortunately. =/ Pretty much every actor in the show annoys the crap out of me now, hahaha. If the production values were higher (Acting, writing, direction) this could have been an amazing show. It's just so boring and goes off on tangents that don't matter and have absolutely no impact on the story. And the zany, over-the-top sound effects and stupid digital blood sprays just kill every zombie scene.

    Anyway, I've ranted about the show before in past threads enough. I am the Walking Dead Debbie Downer.



    I just really had high hopes I guess.
  • DanielAndHisArt

    i thought the first episode or season 2 was better than the entire first season.

    i thought it was awesome.
  • OptimisticDesigns

    DanielAndHisArt said:i thought the first episode or season 2 was better than the entire first season.

    i thought it was awesome.

    My thoughts exactly. I know that these are based on the comics, but I think they're intentionally not trying to copy them word for word or frame for frame. At least that's my understanding.
  • Sam Weinberg

    Jeff Buchanan said:I tried watching the first episode of the first season last night on Netflix, and could only watch five minutes of it. Mostly because of the digital blood splatter

    Yeah the digital effects were really cheesy, that was a big turn off for me. I really hope the show's gonna get better later on..
  • Joshua Jordan

    A.Merkison said:
    Joshua Jordan said:I was a little disappointed with the premier. The story in the novels is a lot better. My biggest peeve with the show is that some certain people are not dead yet.

    It can't be the comics, nor is it trying to be. If it were a frame by frame...or even every 10th frame from the comics, nobody would watch it. It's 95% dialog and character exploration, and 5% zombies. The show right now is probably more in the 70:30 range, and even that is too slow for the average viewer. With that said, I didn't have any huge qualms with the premier. It was a bit of a drag-along, especially the whole church segment, but I think the greater point of it(and any season premier really for that matter) is to re-explore each character, who they are and why they are where they are. It did a relatively good job at that for the more important characters(at least from the show perspective, and obviously not from the novels) and the ending(for as corny as the whole "look at him go" cinematic was) was pretty good.

    I dunno, I like the series more than most...so I'm still relatively excited for it.

    Cutty. said:
    Joshua Jordan said: My biggest peeve with the show is that some certain people are not dead yet.

    I haven't seen the premier of this season, but last season kind of lost me, for this reason especially. They should have just called it something else if they were going to totally change the story, its not really the Walking Dead at all, other than a few character similarities. Season one was pretty boring, I really wanted to like it, too.

    What Cutty said. I have no problem with it being different, with being more zombie focussed. But, and I'm trying not to give it away here, the death of a CERTAIN SOMEONE is the driving force behind the storyline of the first chunk of issues of the comics. Plus then you go and name it after the comics, and still do something nearly unrecognizable from them. I just don't get it.
  • Decappuccino

    The only thing I noticed was the super lame gore effects.
  • SKUMMIE

    Like the show. Never read the comics. I bet if started reading the comic I'd be complaining that its not like the show.
  • popmonkey

    I don't know why anyone would want this to follow so closely to the comics. I've read the comics, and I love them, but I don't want the show to be exactly like them. I want new twists and plot avenues, more character development, etc. Hit some of the major beats, but leave plenty of room for variation and surprise. This isn't a novel they're "adapting", it's a long-form, ongoing comic series. Plus, there are things the medium of television is much better suited for than comics, and vice versa.
  • William Henry

    popmonkey said:I don't know why anyone would want this to follow so closely to the comics. I've read the comics, and I love them, but I don't want the show to be exactly like them. I want new twists and plot avenues, more character development, etc. Hit some of the major beats, but leave plenty of room for variation and surprise. This isn't a novel they're "adapting", it's a long-form, ongoing comic series. Plus, there are things the medium of television is much better suited for than comics, and vice versa.

    I don't think anyone wants it to be an exact adaptation of the comics, but at the same time, I don't think anyone expected it to differ so much either. I'm fine with it being different from the books as it pretty much had to be, my problem is with how boring it is. The pacing of the show is really bad. It feels like I could watch the first and last five minutes of every episode and know exactly what is happening. They pad out the episodes with so much filler that it gets super boring. Not to mention that all the characters, besides Dale, seem exactly the same and give you no reason to care about them.
  • 8-bit ZOMBIE

    William Henry said:I don't think anyone wants it to be an exact adaptation of the comics, but at the same time, I don't think anyone expected it to differ so much either. I'm fine with it being different from the books as it pretty much had to be, my problem is with how boring it is. The pacing of the show is really bad. It feels like I could watch the first and last five minutes of every episode and know exactly what is happening. They pad out the episodes with so much filler that it gets super boring. Not to mention that all the characters, besides Dale, seem exactly the same and give you no reason to care about them.

    All of that is dead on. Aside from the make-up effects the show just doesn't have much going for it. Watching it, I really just don't care what happens to any of the characters. It feels so much like a lot of the Stephen King television adaptations. (I'm a huge King fan) All of King's characters are so quirky and have such a presence on the page and his stories and settings are always deep and layered. But let someone hack the story apart and hire untalented actors and an unimaginative director and it turns to drivel. I wouldn't have imagined a show set during a zombie apocalypse could be so damn boring. But it is!

    Just to be clear on the comic vs show thing - I only read maybe two of the Walking Dead books and that was a few years back. I don't even remember the story lines at this point. (I do remember I didn't like them though, which is why I didn't make it that far in, haha) So the comic/show differences aren't an issue with me at all. But just from the premise alone, the show definitely had huge potential. Which is why I'm so bummed on it. (Obviously a huge zombie movie fan) I really wish this show would have been on the same level as other great dramatic TV series' of recent years. Shows that keep you on the edge of your seat and make you dread the ever approaching end of each episode, not wanting it to be over. Walking Dead is pretty much the exact opposite of that.... I don't even have the desire to watch it for the zombie aspect of it. And that says a lot.
  • miles to go

    i tried watching the first season and got bored, and have tried watching this first episode and paused it 3 times, just to be able to get through it. as ross mentioned, i just dont care about any of the characters. closest thing is sarah from prison break, but because of her character on that show and not this one.
  • KillerTees.ie

    Its grand but nothing amazing. Ive not read the comics so cant compare but the whole show took a serious dive half way through season 1. Il still watch the rest of season 2 but only while printing or making dinner or whatever.
  • theraymex

    Its like i'm watching a drama series.
  • Jandro

    the highway scene was awesome.
  • wotto

    Me Likey
  • breakingbrine

    Jandro said:the highway scene was awesome.

    Definitely loved that scene. The church stuff got a tad boring but I think they're just building up storylines slowly for the rest of the season.
  • popmonkey

    theraymex said:Its like i'm watching a drama series.

    And that's exactly what it is. Robert Kirkman, the creator and writer of the comics is writing a series about people, not about horror. Horrible things happen, but this is a character drama, and he's said as much. He's also very involved with the TV show, so it's not going to stray far from his vision. If it's not your cup of tea, and you find it boring, then that's that and the show's not for you, but the show is pretty much exactly what it's intended to be. There are often entire issues of the comics where nothing particularly gruesome or even zombie-related happens as they're taking time to focus on the characters.
  • theraymex

    popmonkey said:
    theraymex said:Its like i'm watching a drama series.

    And that's exactly what it is. Robert Kirkman, the creator and writer of the comics is writing a series about people, not about horror. Horrible things happen, but this is a character drama, and he's said as much. He's also very involved with the TV show, so it's not going to stray far from his vision. If it's not your cup of tea, and you find it boring, then that's that and the show's not for you, but the show is pretty much exactly what it's intended to be. There are often entire issues of the comics where nothing particularly gruesome or even zombie-related happens as they're taking time to focus on the characters.

    I'm just sharing my opinion, i am not really a hater of TWD just a little bit disappointed that's all. Still gonna watch the whole season.
  • M5Froth

    The pilot episode was great. After that the show sucked.
  • jumpy

    its good compared to lots of other shite on TV
  • fright-rags

    popmonkey said:
    theraymex said:Its like i'm watching a drama series.

    And that's exactly what it is. Robert Kirkman, the creator and writer of the comics is writing a series about people, not about horror. Horrible things happen, but this is a character drama, and he's said as much. He's also very involved with the TV show, so it's not going to stray far from his vision. If it's not your cup of tea, and you find it boring, then that's that and the show's not for you, but the show is pretty much exactly what it's intended to be. There are often entire issues of the comics where nothing particularly gruesome or even zombie-related happens as they're taking time to focus on the characters.

    This 110%. This isn't a show about blood and guts (while those are most certainly welcome), it's about getting to know people. And getting to know people takes time. Is it drawn out? Yes. And that's how it is intended to be. It makes the actual action and death much more intense when it finally happens. If you want a zombie movie, go watch Return of the Living Dead (one of my persoanl faves). If you want to become emotionally invested in the lives of some fictional characters on tv only to be distraught when they die, then watch The Walking Dead.
  • Anthony Smith

    i enjoyed it.
  • atomicchild

    augie said:

    I enjoyed it augie
  • 8-bit ZOMBIE

    fright-rags said:
    popmonkey said:
    theraymex said:Its like i'm watching a drama series.

    And that's exactly what it is. Robert Kirkman, the creator and writer of the comics is writing a series about people, not about horror. Horrible things happen, but this is a character drama, and he's said as much. He's also very involved with the TV show, so it's not going to stray far from his vision. If it's not your cup of tea, and you find it boring, then that's that and the show's not for you, but the show is pretty much exactly what it's intended to be. There are often entire issues of the comics where nothing particularly gruesome or even zombie-related happens as they're taking time to focus on the characters.

    This 110%. This isn't a show about blood and guts (while those are most certainly welcome), it's about getting to know people. And getting to know people takes time. Is it drawn out? Yes. And that's how it is intended to be. It makes the actual action and death much more intense when it finally happens. If you want a zombie movie, go watch Return of the Living Dead (one of my persoanl faves). If you want to become emotionally invested in the lives of some fictional characters on tv only to be distraught when they die, then watch The Walking Dead.

    That's kinda my whole point though. All tv shows, regardless of the setting, are about people and their relationships to one another. (Even reality tv shows) And that's where Walking Dead falls REALLY flat. Like I and others have said, there is pretty much no emotional investment in any of the characters. They are all 2 dimensional, stiff and boring. I think it's a combination of bad writing, bad acting and bad direction. When held up against other great& acclaimed dramatic series', WD doesn't even come close. The show is just a mess.

    But yeah, that's mostly opinion. And I'll stop ranting now. Hahah. I'll agree to disagree. Like I've said a bunch of times, just super disappointed with it on every level. (The zombie make-up is great but that's about it, haha) Being a huge zombie fan, I REALLY wanted it to be awesome. It had SO much potential to amazing.
  • fright-rags

    8-bit ZOMBIE said:
    fright-rags said:
    popmonkey said:
    theraymex said:Its like i'm watching a drama series.

    And that's exactly what it is. Robert Kirkman, the creator and writer of the comics is writing a series about people, not about horror. Horrible things happen, but this is a character drama, and he's said as much. He's also very involved with the TV show, so it's not going to stray far from his vision. If it's not your cup of tea, and you find it boring, then that's that and the show's not for you, but the show is pretty much exactly what it's intended to be. There are often entire issues of the comics where nothing particularly gruesome or even zombie-related happens as they're taking time to focus on the characters.

    This 110%. This isn't a show about blood and guts (while those are most certainly welcome), it's about getting to know people. And getting to know people takes time. Is it drawn out? Yes. And that's how it is intended to be. It makes the actual action and death much more intense when it finally happens. If you want a zombie movie, go watch Return of the Living Dead (one of my persoanl faves). If you want to become emotionally invested in the lives of some fictional characters on tv only to be distraught when they die, then watch The Walking Dead.

    That's kinda my whole point though. All tv shows, regardless of the setting, are about people and their relationships to one another. (Even reality tv shows) And that's where Walking Dead falls REALLY flat. Like I and others have said, there is pretty much no emotional investment in any of the characters. They are all 2 dimensional, stiff and boring. I think it's a combination of bad writing, bad acting and bad direction. When held up against other great& acclaimed dramatic series', WD doesn't even come close. The show is just a mess.

    But yeah, that's mostly opinion. And I'll stop ranting now. Hahah. I'll agree to disagree. Like I've said a bunch of times, just super disappointed with it on every level. (The zombie make-up is great but that's about it, haha) Being a huge zombie fan, I REALLY wanted it to be awesome. It had SO much potential to amazing.

    Honestly, if you haven't read the books, then I can see what you mean. Anyone who has read and is familiar with how the story works in the comic knows exactly what to expect from the show. In that sense, I feel as though they've nailed it. The comic is just as drawn out. so much so,that I have my local comic shop hold issues for 5-6 months so I can pick them up in one visit and read them all at once. I used to go monthly, but I would be done with the story in about 5 minutes, and have to wait another 30 days to see if anything would happen. I know, I know, I just just wait for the trade paperback to come out but I'm antsy.

    Anyway, my point is that I feel this show is best for fans of the book.
  • William Henry

    fright-rags said:
    8-bit ZOMBIE said:
    fright-rags said:
    popmonkey said:
    theraymex said:Its like i'm watching a drama series.

    And that's exactly what it is. Robert Kirkman, the creator and writer of the comics is writing a series about people, not about horror. Horrible things happen, but this is a character drama, and he's said as much. He's also very involved with the TV show, so it's not going to stray far from his vision. If it's not your cup of tea, and you find it boring, then that's that and the show's not for you, but the show is pretty much exactly what it's intended to be. There are often entire issues of the comics where nothing particularly gruesome or even zombie-related happens as they're taking time to focus on the characters.

    This 110%. This isn't a show about blood and guts (while those are most certainly welcome), it's about getting to know people. And getting to know people takes time. Is it drawn out? Yes. And that's how it is intended to be. It makes the actual action and death much more intense when it finally happens. If you want a zombie movie, go watch Return of the Living Dead (one of my persoanl faves). If you want to become emotionally invested in the lives of some fictional characters on tv only to be distraught when they die, then watch The Walking Dead.

    That's kinda my whole point though. All tv shows, regardless of the setting, are about people and their relationships to one another. (Even reality tv shows) And that's where Walking Dead falls REALLY flat. Like I and others have said, there is pretty much no emotional investment in any of the characters. They are all 2 dimensional, stiff and boring. I think it's a combination of bad writing, bad acting and bad direction. When held up against other great& acclaimed dramatic series', WD doesn't even come close. The show is just a mess.

    But yeah, that's mostly opinion. And I'll stop ranting now. Hahah. I'll agree to disagree. Like I've said a bunch of times, just super disappointed with it on every level. (The zombie make-up is great but that's about it, haha) Being a huge zombie fan, I REALLY wanted it to be awesome. It had SO much potential to amazing.

    Honestly, if you haven't read the books, then I can see what you mean. Anyone who has read and is familiar with how the story works in the comic knows exactly what to expect from the show. In that sense, I feel as though they've nailed it. The comic is just as drawn out. so much so,that I have my local comic shop hold issues for 5-6 months so I can pick them up in one visit and read them all at once. I used to go monthly, but I would be done with the story in about 5 minutes, and have to wait another 30 days to see if anything would happen. I know, I know, I just just wait for the trade paperback to come out but I'm antsy.

    Anyway, my point is that I feel this show is best for fans of the book.

    I've read the books and still agree with 8-bit. The show should stand on its own and you shouldn't have to have read the books to understand the show and be entertained by it. There is just no depth to any of the characters. I feel that people are giving the show a pass because they are fans of the books and because its zombies. As if that means the show can be of a lesser quality and it won't matter.
  • popmonkey

    No depth to the characters? I have to disagree. Yeah, not all of them have been fleshed out equally, but there's plenty of depth there. Plenty of depth and subtleties to how the characters are relating to each other, too. It's there, they're just not dumping it all in your lap right away. That's how you get to know people and what makes them tick -- over a span of time and through seeing how they react in different situations and towards different people.
  • swissarmyshark

    this show takes itself way too seriously
  • Show Me Tees

    It's a zombie tv series. I've been loving it.
  • Skull With Hair

    never saw this till sunday, watched all the episodes on netflix with my old lady and we are up to date. got hooked and its crazy cause i haven't liked anything with zombies made post 85. they move a little too fast for my taste, but that aside it's great.
  • mrbubu

    I'm starting to get bored, I prefer Falling skies (aliens instead of zombies), since the story moves a little faster...
  • Anthony Smith

    really enjoyed the second episode and the new characters. think the acting in general is top notch too. Maybe im enjoying it so much because i havent read the novels so i have no idea what to expect.

    edit: just realised that carl is an awful name for a child.
  • Jandro

    I'm glad they steered off a bit from the comics. It makes it more fun to be surprised.

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