I'm personally not too familiar with printing styles. I went with discharge printing for my last print and it turned out great. What are your opinions on soft hand plastisol?

I of course don't want a heavy / thick print and I know discharge would be the answer for that. But with the screen printing company I'm trying out, they have a 72 piece minimum for discharge printing which is beyond the amount I'm needing.
  • awakencompany

    We just placed a small order well under 72 and they're being done with discharge inks. Check out our printers: http://www.terminustees.com - They do the best work around! Shoot this guy an email: dylan@terminustees.com, he's our sales rep and he'll get you taken care of.
  • EricAbstruse

    I'll check em out, thanks
  • evolve or die

    if it's 50, hit up threadbird. The discharge is included and they print soft anyways
  • EricAbstruse

    I used ThreadBird for my last print and they did an awesome job. I'm just giving a local printer a try - http://www.bandwagonmerch.com/
  • Colemadethis

    depends on light vs dark garment.
    soft hand or reduced plasticol for light colors. discharge, or discharge base for darks.
  • Obscure

    I only print discharge on dark garments and don't charge any extra (saves printing an underbase and making another screen), personally I love it. I just did a reprint of a 4 colour for sfs and you can't even feel the print and the colours are vibrant. I've had plastisol prints on dark from monster and they were really good too but I think they do discharge underbasing now, not 100% sure.
  • ThinkInkClothing

    im new at printing and i asked one of the paint vendors in our city and they told me they dont sell plasticol anymore for health reasons. they told me it uses a good amount of formaline(not sure how to spell it) that irritates the skin. Another thing i dont like about plasticol is that it needs curing (which needs a machine that I can't afford to buy. So doing it at home is quite costy). They have this new thing called the X-Charge? I dont if you guys read about it. Its water based and doesn't dry fast.

    anyway,just like i said,im new at these. So this is what i know for a few months fifuring it out.
  • Obscure

    Im also pretty new to all this but pretty sure you can get a load of different types of plastisol they even do water based plastisol now. I would definitely cure your waterbased print a little bit by the way. You can buy a flash dryer for cheap from eBay or get a heat gun if you arnt doing big runs.
  • mainTARAtain

    do u guys pre-wash your discharged tees for the client?
  • Obscure

    mainTARAtain said:do u guys pre-wash your discharged tees for the client?

    That for the smell from the discharge? I don't. I use a 'Eco friendly discharge' which makes me laugh cos it has crazy warning signs on it but it doesn't smell.
  • Will Petersen

    We can print plastisol so it has a soft hand but this is mainly for light tees. We can print a THIN, bright, matte layer on dark shirts with plastisol, but it's going to have a bit of hand to it. You can get a nice soft print on dark tees by printing a thin layer of plastisol on a discharge underbase. A lot of discharge (especially ZF discharge) stinks before washed, so we have special (expensive) discharge ink that doesn't reek.

    If they are light garments, you can get away with a really soft hand with based down plastisol, don't need to go the waterbased route for light garments if it's going to cost more money. Most people when they hear the word "plastisol" instantly think of a rubbery, shiny shield of a print which isn't the case if you know what you're doing!
  • mainTARAtain

    Obscure said:
    mainTARAtain said:do u guys pre-wash your discharged tees for the client?

    That for the smell from the discharge? I don't. I use a 'Eco friendly discharge' which makes me laugh cos it has crazy warning signs on it but it doesn't smell.

    exactly why. because i cant stand the smell and i know after we poly bag them and the client opens it up, itll be extra rancid after being cooped up in the poly bag lol. what company makes the eco- friendly stuff? we usually work with Union and the guy I deal with never mentioned an eco friendly product.
  • EricAbstruse

    Thanks for the help guys!

    Will Petersen said:We can print plastisol so it has a soft hand but this is mainly for light tees. We can print a THIN, bright, matte layer on dark shirts with plastisol, but it's going to have a bit of hand to it. You can get a nice soft print on dark tees by printing a thin layer of plastisol on a discharge underbase. A lot of discharge (especially ZF discharge) stinks before washed, so we have special (expensive) discharge ink that doesn't reek.

    If they are light garments, you can get away with a really soft hand with based down plastisol, don't need to go the waterbased route for light garments if it's going to cost more money. Most people when they hear the word "plastisol" instantly think of a rubbery, shiny shield of a print which isn't the case if you know what you're doing!

    Thanks dude. Still not sure what I'm going to do
  • Obscure

    Well I use a Eco friendly ink not sure bout your suppliers.
  • Nova

    Yeah I hate the smell of discharge inks after I print my tees. I think I might check out the eco friendly version. Any specific brand name to get?
  • unikink.com

    If discharge ink is cured properly, it shouldn't have any bad smell to it. If it is undercured, you will smell the ZF.
  • ChrisAnnihilation

    unikink.com said:If discharge ink is cured properly, it shouldn't have any bad smell to it. If it is undercured, you will smell the ZF.

    Just wash it. All of my tees smell like fish pussy when i get them.
  • Obscure

    ChrisAnnihilation said:
    unikink.com said:If discharge ink is cured properly, it shouldn't have any bad smell to it. If it is undercured, you will smell the ZF.

    Just wash it. All of my tees smell like fish pussy when i get them.

    HA! i'm definitely gona use that as an explanation when i am asked it discharge smells! Also and just throwing this one out there incase people havn't tried it.... but use ULF not ZF. It doesn't smell well smells a bit like wet paint when using it but after it's cured it doesn't, if cured properly.
  • ATF365

    EricAbstruse said:I used ThreadBird for my last print and they did an awesome job. I'm just giving a local printer a try - http://www.bandwagonmerch.com/

    How did it go working with Bandwagon....Very curious???

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