I wanted to start a progress thread for myself. I thought being the beginning of the website I would start a thread that would be a history of the evolution of my artwork while a part of the community. So here is the beginning of the first project I started to night.

What I hope to get out of this thread is to just showcase my work and get any critique on my work through the stages it goes through so that I can improve.

Here is what I am starting. This is just a small portion of the bigger image. Hoping to have some demon type character placing hands over a floating all seeing eye type triangle thing.

  • alex@graphicsover.be

    Good idea this thread! I always love to see how others work.
    So you just start with a detail? Or do you make a total image sketch?
  • Poltart

    Thanks. I actually start with a sketch then go over with a quick ink. Then start going in with detailed ink and throw in some color to get things set in stone.

    On the right side I detailed it a bit already, on the left is just the ink thrown in. Here is the original sketch by the way.

  • justLowd

    I feel like your art is a little sloppy. Even though you use varying line weights, I see that you tend to use one line weight at a time. For example, you're using a really heavy line around the outside and the jaw, then you go with a medium line for a bit of the more detailed stuff, then you have a fine detailed line. I would try varying your lines and transitioning from fine to heavy lines. Also, you barely have any established light source. It looks like the light is hitting it straight on from the front with the blue highlights, but your cast shadow is going downwards. You should really establish your light source because it looks pretty flat right now. I don't want to preach my process onto you, but I usually work monochromatically before adding the coloring, so that the values makes sense, which I feel is really important in an illustration.
  • markusmanson

    justLowd said:I feel like your art is a little sloppy. Even though you use varying line weights, I see that you tend to use one line weight at a time. For example, you're using a really heavy line around the outside and the jaw, then you go with a medium line for a bit of the more detailed stuff, then you have a fine detailed line. I would try varying your lines and transitioning from fine to heavy lines. Also, you barely have any established light source. It looks like the light is hitting it straight on from the front with the blue highlights, but your cast shadow is going downwards. You should really establish your light source because it looks pretty flat right now. I don't want to preach my process onto you, but I usually work monochromatically before adding the coloring, so that the values makes sense, which I feel is really important in an illustration.

    this is exactly what I had in mind. I don't know if your style or you're still exploring it, but your random light source always kinda bugging me. No offense dude, it's just that I think it would be much more awesome if only it was done with a more established light source.
  • Poltart

    Thanks for the critique guys, I appreciate it! I agree sometimes I loose track of adding a light source or controlling one in my work. In this project I have not yet added one that blue and gray/blue were just highlights and shades, but I will actually re-do them to fit a light source better, just need to practice that.

    As far as the lines go, the reason the outer jaw/triangle is so bold is because I used a shape and have not modified the rest, but the rest of the lines having their size change is something I purposely do.

    Can you show me an example of what you mean by converting them to smaller sizes? Just so I can see it in action.

    Once again I appreciate your guys critique and I don't take it as offensive messages but instead help to aid me in becoming a better illustrator! :)
  • Andrew Haines

    I always thought you used a lot of black. I think your a good illustrator, but overall it was hard to distinguish what was what, if that makes sense. I agree with the light source, that may have been a factor to what I saw. Try drawing a circle where you want the light to hit from and then having all the highlights hit from there. Your later work has definitely been an improvement and I can see that your evolving for the better. Keep it up dude!
  • Andrew Haines

    ^^ Lack of depth. Thats what I was trying to say. (can't edit comments)
  • Poltart

    I took your guys advise and started a new project focusing a lot on defining a light source. Here is a sketch and Ink progress.


  • xul1349

    Much better
  • El Presidente

    That's some HorrorCore rap shizz right there dogg ;)
  • Poltart

    Haha sure is! ;P
  • Poltart

    I was playing around with colors and finally got a color setup I like.

  • Poltart

    Here is an update, decided to modify my colors actually. :)

    Also decided to go crazy with light sources ;) Added another one.

  • alex@graphicsover.be

    looks amazing!
  • Poltart

    Still have a bit to go but wanted to post an update, now time for bed.

  • alex@graphicsover.be

    I don't know why, but you lost power with your coloring. I thought it was much better in B&W… maybe it's the highlights…
  • bloodboy

    Interessting thread I guess ..
  • Craig Robson

    man your colour choices are all over the shop! you should colour it in greyscale to see how it works, right now it seems like all the colours are fighting for attention.
  • ibzombieliquorice

    Craig Robson said:man your colour choices are all over the shop! you should colour it in greyscale to see how it works, right now it seems like all the colours are fighting for attention.

    Agree, your line work is great on that one. Now the colours seem to be taking away from rather than adding...if that makes sense.
  • Poltart

    Craig Robson said:man your colour choices are all over the shop! you should colour it in greyscale to see how it works, right now it seems like all the colours are fighting for attention.

    Craig do you have any link or tips on how to do that? Do I just color it in grayscale and then select a color for each without moving the actual contrast of it up or down but instead just adding color?

    Thanks for the tip guys, I will work on my colors as suggested! :)

    And I have heard it in the past that my colors do take away rather then add. What tips can you guys give me so that this doesn't happen?
  • Poltart

    Alright guys I went back and created a quick example of color choice. I did what Craig suggested and created a color set using grayscale colors. I tried to have visible contract between the colors. Is that the goal, or to have them blend so to say?

    Either way here is an image of the grayscale and then the color verison, let me know if it looks better or what I can do now to better my work! :)


  • AJSmith

    Poltart said:Alright guys I went back and created a quick example of color choice. I did what Craig suggested and created a color set using grayscale colors. I tried to have visible contract between the colors. Is that the goal, or to have them blend so to say?

    Either way here is an image of the grayscale and then the color verison, let me know if it looks better or what I can do now to better my work! :)



    point of the grey is to show contrast of darks and lights, in your grey scale there should be a super light to a dark black, i think you need to make the highlight tones even lighter for more contrast
  • Poltart

    So then on the one I had posted of the latest progress with the colors. Do I not have enough contrast there? It seems to me like I have a very defined bright, maybe the dark could be more darker (the purple)?
  • Poltart

    So I played around a little more with colors and got this combination going. I feel pretty good about it myself.

  • Griggitee

    You are still not getting it.
    This forum has some helpful links and useful information on the subject.
    tonal painting in grayscale and adding color later
  • justLowd

    You're also making your design convoluted with excessive lines. Think about a focal point, not everything needs to have the same attention to detail. You're creating lines that are clashing within your design. For example, all the lines on the awning is really distracting from your ice cream, which should be the focus.
  • quakerninja

    What is with this new clown trend?
  • 8-bit ZOMBIE

    quakerninja said:What is with this new clown trend?

    Yeah, it's insane.

  • Poltart

    I finished up the clown. And started a sketch for a new project.


  • Poltart

    Here is an update from tonight.
  • bloodboy

    I like this thread ..
  • fracturize

    first make all greyscale correct and rich than do color pass over it,this way allcolors have same kinda tone and look dull
  • oohdoyle

    bloodboy said:I like this thread ..

    And I think Poltart has improved a lot too. (:
  • Poltart

    Finished the Lantern watchman design today. Logo added for placement, now time to try to sell it! :)


  • Poltart

    Actually went back to it and worked more on the light source with the aid of Atomic Child. Here is the new version. I am pretty satisfied with it now!

  • bomb_rwanda

    Poltart said:Here is an update from tonight.

    woah! the cloak shading is mad!!! so so good
  • atomicchild

    turned out great man
  • Standalive

    crazy im digging this thread
  • Poltart

    I did this design a few months ago and recently submitted but it did not make the cut so I will just post it here. :)



    And here is the design.


  • alex@graphicsover.be

    have to say it again:
    B&W= amazing!!!
    Color = seems weird en it looses all it's power for me :(
    > not sure why or what the problem is, i guess the highlighting makes it all "plastic" looking…

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